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    Hi All, im looking at starting my first cycle the beggining of May. Ive done all my research thanks to this site and ive just got a few questions to ask before i start. Im 44 5'11" 190Ilbs 10-11% bodyfat. Diets tip top and ive been training for the last 3 years. My first cycle will be the classic Test e/ Dbol cycle and i plan on running Swiftos protocol of HCG during cycle 250UI twice a week with Aromasin 10mg everyday a few days up to PCT. Id like to know when in the cycle i should start Aromasin? Ive also read Swiftos piece on PCT. I am unsure what to run for how long and at what doses, ie Tamore, Tamox, Clomid and in what combinations. Id also like to know why to have Caber on hand. Id really appreciate any help. Thanks Lee.

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    i start on day 1

    and i wouldnt start on 10mg ed, depending on how its dosed either 12.5mg eod or if its liquid then start on 5-6 mg ed

    if estrogen crashes then this brings its own problems

    you dont need caber at hand unless you run 19nors and even then you shouldnt need it if you regulate estrogen to begin with

    run tamox/clomid

    4 weeks at week 1,2,3,4 tamox 40/40/20/20 and clomid 50/50/25/25 or even 100mg the first week of clomid if you like

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    here is some more info on SERMS to help you understand it a bot better

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.T3yCttlvCSo

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    1st cycles are test only 500mg a week.You do only 1 compound so if you have a reaction you know wat caused it.

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    Ok, it will be liquid, what's with the different dosing for liquid?. I'm sure I read Swiftos sticky and it recommended 10mg ed although I will check that again. I've also always read to run 1 compound for the reasons stated but all 1st cycles posted hear and elsewhere for critique are Test e and dbol?. Also running Hcg and Aromasin on cycle are you really going to know what's disagreeing with you? Thanks for the input. Lee

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    I think you mean 1mg ed or even eod.
    You wont get any sides from the aromasin per say unless you use to much and get low E2. Hcg only side effect is your balls dont shrink up like a 10yr old. Any sides you get will be from the test or dbol.

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    I have just tetras Swiftis thread on using a AI on cycle and it does state Aromasin 10 mg ED.

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    Angry

    Sorry tetras is reread and Swiftis should read Swifto I'm gonna kick this phones ass lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by leewil1 View Post
    I have just tetras Swiftis thread on using a AI on cycle and it does state Aromasin 10 mg ED.
    Yeah but that dosnt mean that it will be the same for everybody, most people find slightly less to be the sweet spot depending on what they are running

    Its better to start too low and increase if necessary than to start to high and have estrogen crash, then you fvcked

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    I agree. I was well into a cycle and started to have gyno. I dosed my letrozole way to high and had a bad crash. Bf went up and had to come off cycle to repair my stupid ignorant damage. This was 3 years ago and I have since then repented. Lol. Always better to does low, see what works then increase as needed. You should def thank Danb. He already helped me today too.

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    Ok. So i start with 10mg eod what sides should i look out for before i need to start increasing it, or do you suggest another method. Just a not ill be using liquidstane.

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    Less that 1mg of arimidex would be more than enough for you every day. I would definitely not take 10mg every other day. I believe that .5mg or adex will suppress estrogen levels to less than one percent, but its been long time since I read that research.

    Am I on crack here? Isn't the typical arimidex dosage 1mg?

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    Oh, and I wooud personally stay away from HCG, I understand that in low doses it's probably fine, but its one of the compounds that can PERMANENTLY desensitize the leydig cells in your balls.

    Just do a short cycle, do good pct and your balls will be fine. The risk of damaging them is not worth stopping the atrophe.

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