First Cycle, couple quick quesions

[Dexter187]

Hi All,

30 years old, 175, bf 12%, clean diet with plenty of lean protein, vitamins, fish oils, glucosamine, and creatine HCI.

I've finally decided to try a cycle after working my butt off 4-5 days a week at the gym for the past year, but I've hit a major plateau with gains. I'm only looking to put on about 15-20 pounds, and would also like to cut up and put on good quality lean muscle... so here's the cycle I've decided on after lots of reading:

Weeks 1 – 13 Enan 500mg/wk (1000mg wk 1, frontload)
Weeks 1 – 14 EQ 500mg/wk (1000mg wk 1, frontload)
Weeks 1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg every day
Weeks 1 – 15 L-dex .25mg every day

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Day 1: 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 – 30: 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 – 37: 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

One of my biggest questions that I can't seem to find an answer to is how to pin both the test-e and eq, frequency wise. Right now I'm thinking about 250mg of each on Wed & Sunday each week, but is it normal to draw 250mg of each into the same syringe and blast the mixture at the same time? Or do I need to shoot the test and eq separately? I'd like to minimize pins if possible and shoot the mixture at the same time, unless anyone advises against this.

I also have a question about frontloading but I'll wait to get an answer to the question above first. Thanks to anyone who can offer up some advice to a newcomer!

[bob87]

Hi All,

30 years old, 175, bf 12%, clean diet with plenty of lean protein, vitamins, fish oils, glucosamine, and creatine HCI.

I've finally decided to try a cycle after working my butt off 4-5 days a week at the gym for the past year, but I've hit a major plateau with gains. I'm only looking to put on about 15-20 pounds, and would also like to cut up and put on good quality lean muscle... so here's the cycle I've decided on after lots of reading:

Weeks 1 – 13 Enan 500mg/wk (1000mg wk 1, frontload) First Cycle no need to front load run 500mg per week
Weeks 1 – 14 EQ 500mg/wk (1000mg wk 1, frontload) Dont run EQ on First Cycle
Weeks 1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg every day Nolva is a SERM use in PCT
Weeks 1 – 15 L-dex .25mg every day Seems ok

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Day 1: 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex PCT is Terrible Run like this Clomid 100/100/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20 No A DEX
Day 2 – 30: 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 – 37: 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

One of my biggest questions that I can't seem to find an answer to is how to pin both the test-e and eq, frequency wise. Right now I'm thinking about 250mg of each on Wed & Sunday each week, but is it normal to draw 250mg of each into the same syringe and blast the mixture at the same time? Or do I need to shoot the test and eq separately? I'd like to minimize pins if possible and shoot the mixture at the same time, unless anyone advises against this.

I also have a question about frontloading but I'll wait to get an answer to the question above first. Thanks to anyone who can offer up some advice to a newcomer!

Read the bold.
You should pin the Enanthate Twice a week i choose mon-thurs
Add HCG 250 IU 2x weekly
Run one compound for the first cycle dont frontload

Other then that 175lbs how tall are you???
If ive missed anything someone else will chime in

[Dexter187]

sorry, 5'9" tall. So no adex during PCT, makes sense. But no Nolva during cycle? I read in quite a few places that running small doses greatly reduces sides... you don't agree?

and why no eq? I've read a lot saying that its one of the best to stack with test on a first cycle, and I thought it might help with good solid muscle... even though I know it's not designed to be a mass gainer.

[bob87]

Just to add to that read this post by SWIFTO

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...into-your-dose!!

[Dexter187]

that link was full of good info, thanks. One other question though: the cycle I listed was literally taken from a post by TheMudMan in the section for newbie starter cycles... just curious to know why the differences in your opinion about eq, and no Nolva on cycle?

[austinite]

that link was full of good info, thanks. One other question though: the cycle I listed was literally taken from a post by TheMudMan in the section for newbie starter cycles... just curious to know why the differences in your opinion about eq, and no Nolva on cycle?

First cycle should be test only. If you use more than one compound and you get heavy sides, there is no telling which compound is causing it. Once you have several test only cycles you can start adding second compounds.

[< <Samson> >]

One substance to see how your body takes juice.

Save the Nolva for pct, use a AI while on. I used stane for mine.

14 Weeks seems long. But to each is own. I will never run a cycle over 8 weeks long again. But with enan you have to.

I'm not huge on the idea on frontloading. If you run enan, finish it off with prop. It will bridge you over to pct. Do like 10 weeks of enan then 2 of prop.

Just how I ran mine, worked wonders so far.

[Dexter187]

good points about using only one compound, maybe I'll save trying out eq for cycle 2 if all goes well with the first one.

[Bigherm21]

Bro test only for a first cycle. The more compounds the more chances of sides. If you start getting bad sides you won't know where they're coming from. I'm sorry that maybe is a.newbie cycle but not a.first. look at eq and how it thickens blood. I'm not a fan of eq at all.

[Dexter187]

I did forget about the HCG though, I'll be adding this to the cycle. And I'll also ditch the frontloading idea... I was a little unsure about that anyways so I'll save that for cycles down the road maybe

[bob87]

Good luck...... Make sure your diet is spot on otherwise your gains will suffer..... Remember Train Eat Sleep

[Bigherm21]

Ya Def do that bro. Trust me you'll thank us later