first injection and i need some help

[fran52]

im 23 205 lbs 15 % body fat

some buddies and i bought some super test,
the one buddy has been injecting for awhile, everything was also sterile.
so 3 of us injected and at first it was fine.
but its been a week now and the injection site is in alot of pain, it hurts to sit down and
the pain has went up to the muscle beside my lower spine.
there is a little bump where we injected, but it looks fine its not red or infected or anything but its just hurts alot.
i believe we might of injected a little high on the glute,

so how do i make the pain go away, we have stopped injecting because were in to much pain to workout so what do we do?

[fran52]

we injected 1 ml

[DanB]

is there any heat?

if not then its normal for ''virgin muscle'' you will get used to it

try injucting very very slowly, heat the gear slightly when its in the barrell by running it under warm water and gently massage the injection site afterwards

what size needle did you use?

23g at biggest i.m.o even 25g is fine, i regularly use a 27g and prop flows fine when warmed up, so does suspension

[fran52]

were using 21 guage needles that are a inch and a half long, thats to big for injecting into your upper glutes?
is it better to do it down a little more so its straight into more muscle?
and ya its first time using,

my one buddy talked to some other users that he knows and some say that if it hurts ur doing it wrong, and they never had it hurt.

so were not to sure wat to do?

and heat it up befor injecting?

[kamilo1975]

Wow 21 that's big, try a 23

[fran52]

what about the pain, and it moving up to my lower back? and the lump

massage and heat or ice or what?

[binsser]

pain up your backs normal i get it everytime along with slight pain down my leg its test m8 and your sticking it in your muscle if you m8 says its doesnt hurt hes lucky my and my friend are doing the same thing and he is in pain every injection as i dont get any so its upto your body bud and dont heat it up just stay clean and jab youll be fine mate!

[binsser]

oh sorry the lump will go after 3-4 days my friend gets golf ball size lump and bruising where like i said i get nothing just quick short pain when injecting and thats it, its just luck of the draw!

[600@50]

I use a 1 1/2" long 23ga but a 25ga would be less painful. If the injection site is not warm to touch try lying on a heating pad to get the area warm then massage it. It'll get better in time.

[fran52]

just injected. should i ice it or apply heat while massaging?

[songdog]

At 23 your a lil young to be cycling anyway.Best to wait a couple of years.

[blksavage]

yeah I agree with songdog your almost there just wait another two to three years

[fran52]

well thats besides the point now, so whats best cold or heat?