First cycle, total plan feedback.

[Perfect]

After many hard years in the gym i decided to take my training to the next level.
I have about 8 years of experience (gym) , and have spent most of my time to learn all about nutrition and how my body responds on different exercises and training routines.
I decided to start with steroids as a final touch to increase muscle mass and get more detailed.

After lots of research i decided to start a Test Propionate only cycle 100mg EOD 8weeks.

Stat. Age 24, weight 72 kg, lenght 178 cm, body fat 8%.

Nutrition: Daily calorie intake about 2700kcal
Meal:
1: cup of oats+eggwhites with spenach+flaxseed oil.
2: whey isolate+casein drink and almonds.
3:Brown rice+ chicken breast and broccoli and olive oil.
Gym workout: bcaa+glutamine+dextro during workout.
Post workout: Whey isolate.
4:Rice+beef and broccoli.
5:White fish+sallad
6:Chicken+sallad
7:Whey isolat drink

Just a sample, i stay 100% clean with my food...

Gym routine: 5 days week, cardio 3 times week.

Supplements:
Whey isolate
Bcaa
Glutamine
Multi vits
Zma
Vit c

Cycle plan:

Test Propionate 100mg EOD 8 weeks.

�Mon - 100mg Test. Propionate
�Wed - 100mg Test. Propionate
�Fri - 100mg Test. Propionate
�Sun - 100mg Test. Propionate

Have some questions about my PCT-Cycle.Have a hard time to decide which of these two i should run.

1.Nolva Only.
PCT: Nolvadex
WK 1: 40mg/ed
WK 2: 40mg/ed
WK 3: 20mg/ed
WK 4: 20mg/ed
WK 5: 10mg/ed

2.Nolva+Clomid
WK 1: 40mg/ed
WK 2: 40mg/ed
WK 3: 20mg/ed
WK 4: 20mg/ed
WK 5: 10mg/ed

WK 1: 100mg/ed
WK 2: 100mg/ed
WK 3: 50mg/ed
WK 4: 25mg/ed
WK 5: 25mg/ed

Also have some questions about AIs.

I dont know if iam prone to gyno since this is my first, had sore nipples during puberty so mi plan is tu run Adex 0,25mg EOD during cycle.

Wonder what you guys think about this, please leave feedback and personal experience.

[AD]

looking at your diet, your carb seems a little low. is that intentional? you may be able to grow a bit more naturally if you up your carb a little. you sound a bit light for your height. if you decide to go ahead with the cycle, you'll definitely need to up your carbs a lot.

the cycle itself looks ok. AI on cycle is a good idea.

PCT should be both clomid and nolva, but 4 wks should be enough, no need for 5.

[Perfect]

Just a sample, i go high carbs sometimes and low i vary.

i the ratio between Nolvadex and Clomid good?

Would 0.25mg adex eod be fine?

[binsser]

You can go upto 6 weeks for pct and is best too really but alot do 4 adex 0.25 would be every other day use more if needed if you feel sides starting and your diet looks quite good i take it your going for a cut to look more ripped test-p is good at 100mg eod as well as thats what i do and am doing right now (but im using tren-a nas well lol) so your good to go m8 happy days !

[binsser]

nolva-clomid 40/40/20/20 50/50/25/25 for a standered 4 weeks continue if you feel you need too bud!

[Focused88]

nolva-clomid 40/40/20/20 50/50/25/25 for a standered 4 weeks continue if you feel you need too bud!

Damn it took me a while to pronounce/figure out this sh!t lol

[Focused88]

Just a sample, i go high carbs sometimes and low i vary.

i the ratio between Nolvadex and Clomid good?

Would 0.25mg adex eod be fine?

I like running
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Which is standard

[Perfect]

Got the advice to just use Nolvadex for PCT since this is my first cycle, to see how my body reacts.
what are your guys thoughts on this?

[AD]

i would still take both clomid and nolva. but if you're worried about sides from pct, you can try a lower dose of clomid 50/50/25/25, nolva 20/20/20/20

[Perfect]

Thanks, think that i will try it out, every body reacts differently some get sides from Nolva others from Clomid, its hard to decide.

Have some thoughts about the Arimidex, i sould start with 0,25mg eod Mon, Wen, Fri, Sun i will also pin 100mg test prop this days . How should i combine it?
Lets say i pin test in the morning should i take arimidex whit it the same time?

[AD]

yes, you can take your oral AI and pin the test on the same days

[Perfect]

Thanks for the help guys, have a hard time deciding if i should run Arimidex through the cycle or skip it, hmmm

[BIG belly BIG squat]

There is a sticky post by swifto at the top of this forum, take a look at that. Should help with ai questions

[gonebluffn]

You said yourself you had sore nipps during puberty I would run the adex looks like your committed and have done some research. Goodluck

[MickeyKnox]

cycle
wks 1-8 100mg prop eod.
wks 1-8 12.5mg aromisin(stane) eod and monitor.
wks 1-8 hcg 250iu 2/wk

pct - start 3 days after last pin.
clomid 100/75/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20

this is a standard protocol for an 8 wk cycle of prop. 4 wks of pct is plenty for such a mild cycle. make sure your diet is in check and represents your goals.

[Perfect]

Just have Clomid,nolvadex and Arimidex. Think it would be fine, just want to make sure i do it right. Think i would run Arimidex from the cycle start.

If sides starting i will increase from 0,25mg eod to 0,5mg ed.
Noticed that some aslo use Nolva and arimidex lets say that i feel a bump(gyno), so i add about 40mg Nolva ed until it go away and continue 20mg ed through cycle. What do you guys think about this?

I would personally use Letrozole in this case but cant get it. Think it would be fine witht Arimidex in my case at such a low dose.