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    First cycle

    I am thinking of running my first cycle I am 5'10" weigh about 187 lbs. I am 27 and have been training hard since 18. My cycle is...
    Dbol 40mg/day with test sust 250mg every 4-5 days for 8 weeks.. I will start nolva about 4-6 days after my last injection of sust and run 40mg/day for the first week of pct, then 20mg/day for 5 more weeks. Is this good? & should I add clomid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Americanman10
    I am thinking of running my first cycle I am 5'10" weigh about 187 lbs. I am 27 and have been training hard since 18. My cycle is...
    Dbol 40mg/day with test sust 250mg every 4-5 days for 8 weeks.. I will start nolva about 4-6 days after my last injection of sust and run 40mg/day for the first week of pct, then 20mg/day for 5 more weeks. Is this good? & should I add clomid?
    Pct is all wrong, wrong starting times and you on need it for 4weeks! Clomid is good to add and what about an AI, u need to do a bit more research mate! And IMO u don't need the dbol!

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    What would u sugest I do?? &when shoukd I start the pct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Americanman10
    What would u sugest I do?? &when shoukd I start the pct?
    What's your bf%? Do a little bit of research, use the search tool, it'll take you as little as 10mins

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    About 12%

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    Yeah... toss the dbol.. Or use that money for a better PCT. You need to wait about 18 days after your last sust injsction to start PCT. For that reason only, I would consider/recommend going with test cypionate or test enanthate. 18 days is alot of time to be off before starting pct. That is one reason why I don't use sust anymore. If I do, I'll switch to an equal dosage of test prop for the last 2 weeks. This way, you only have to wait 3 days before starting PCT. You're gonna be really happy with the gains you get from Test alone. Trust me. Test is King! I heart Test. If you could only have 1 compound for the rest of your life, 10 times out of 10, pros will probably say Test or HGH. I have only done PCT once out of about 8 cycles! It was my last cycle, and the only one where I kept about 80% of my gains. All others I lost everything. I can only recommend doing a complete and proper pct... Nolva/clomid/hcg. Whats the point if you're gonna loose it right? So, If you haven't bought it already... consider Test Cyp or Enanthate... scratch the dbol... run a proper pct. Research this site, and google other questions that you have. There aren't too many questions that haven't been answered, that you should have no trouble finding the answers to.

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    Flacco is right on the test prop, run that last so you can do your pct almost right away. I did that my last few cycles and works out awesome.

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    Which test is better test cyp or test en?

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    They are almost identical

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    Ok so ur saying I can do either one of those with a pct? I am wanting to gain mass along with strength and keep most of it can I stack these with something else?

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    No need to stack... Test does everything. Builds muscle, burns fat. Take it slow. Test is very powerful on its own. Get your diet aligned with your goals. Diet is more important than the compounds themselves. What are your goals? Post in the diet section for feedback. Run Test Cyp or Test E for 10-12 weeks, no more than 500 is nessesary. Eating right is key. The juice just quickens the whole process. Start PCT 2 weeks after last Test cyp or enanthate shot. Focus on proper PCT to retain your gains or you'll loose them.

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    You should keep your first cycle simple so you'll know how your body responds to it the compounds. Test e or c is good cycle by itself. Run it at 500mg a week and split that up into 2 injections a week to keep your blood levels more stable, I like to pin Monday's and Thursday's. Make sure you run an ai for example arimedex, I like to run it at .25mg eod. Make sure you have a good pct lined up, nolva and clomid are pretty much the standard. Start your pct 2 weeks after your last injection and run it for 4 weeks. Run nolva at 40/40/20/20, and clomid at 100/50/50/50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wesholcomb80
    You should keep your first cycle simple so you'll know how your body responds to it the compounds. Test e or c is good cycle by itself. Run it at 500mg a week and split that up into 2 injections a week to keep your blood levels more stable, I like to pin Monday's and Thursday's. Make sure you run an ai for example arimedex, I like to run it at .25mg eod. Make sure you have a good pct lined up, nolva and clomid are pretty much the standard. Start your pct 2 weeks after your last injection and run it for 4 weeks. Run nolva at 40/40/20/20, and clomid at 100/50/50/50.
    What is an ai? And when would I start the arimedex if I used that?

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    It'll keep you from getting gyno, start taking it your first day and stop when you start pct.

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    Start researching on here an you can get alot of useful info. You can go to the steroid profile section on here and get all the info on everything I listed above.

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    Ok thanks I will. But would an 8 week cycle of what u posted above be good? The start the pct 2 weeks after the last injection?

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    You can run a 8 week cycle if you want, I prefer a 10-12 week cycle. Test e and c are slow esters so it's going to take them around 6 weeks before you are going to start seeing results.

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    Ok. Wilk the gains with test be as great as gains with dbol?

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    And could u name me some more things that are like arimedex? I read about it and the side effects included weakness..

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