Test-E or Sus-250??????????

[Judah]

I have enough Test for 10 weeks/500mg a week and enough Sus for 15 weeks/500mg a week. So the question is...

Test-E for 10 weeks @ 500mg a week?

Or....

Sus-250 for 15 weeks @ 500mg a week.

Which do you guys feel is better for a first cycle?

Goal: lean gains control by diet and training.

[infantry13]

I'd say Test-E for the 10 weeks... you said it was your first cycle its better to only put one compound into your body. That way if you have a negative reaction you know it was the test e ya know what im trying to say? your first couple cycles you gotta keep simple and easy. You also might wanna think of getting an ai (like arimidex) to take to control estro while on it.... Its never wise to cycle without an ai, you have a PCT right?

[t-dogg]

Agreed Test E for the first cycle. Second go with the sust, thats what I did.

[Judah]

Oh yeah, I have it all locked in.

Hmm, I was leaning towards the longer cycle and the Sus lol, damn. So even though sus is still test, all the different ester in sus may effect me differently, so I need to see how me and test-e get along first?

Week 1-14: Sustanon 500mg a week

Week 1-14: Armidex 0.25mg EOD and HCG 500iu EW

Week 15-16: HCG 500iu ED

Week 16-18: Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/100/50/50

33 6ft 220lbs 18% BF

Dropping to 10% BF naturally or maybe using Clen before starting cycle .

[t-dogg]

Yes I would get your bf at least to 15%, prefer less. Then run Test E. See how you react to Test and that one ester.

[Judah]

Yes I would get your bf at least to 15%, prefer less. Then run Test E. See how you react to Test and that one ester.

Roger dodger, thanks.

[t-dogg]

Clen is great stuff, ran it before. Just be careful with it and research for yourself.

[GorillaNuts]

Clen gets you shredded, but into my 3 rd cycle of it I developed palpitations and chest pain.

[Judah]

Clen gets you shredded, but into my 3 rd cycle of it I developed palpitations and chest pain.

I've heard of this before. Within what time frame did you do all 3 cycles and did the problem go away after use?

[t-dogg]

I have ran clen for 8weeks straight before with keto. Its best to ramp up to 120mcg's a day. My heart palpitation only happened for one day I believe. I personally didnt have any chest pains.

[austinite]

I have ran clen for 8weeks straight before with keto. Its best to ramp up to 120mcg's a day. My heart palpitation only happened for one day I believe. I personally didnt have any chest pains.

Are you serious? 8 weeks on clen straight? What was the high dose and for how long?

[t-dogg]

Are you serious? 8 weeks on clen straight? What was the high dose and for how long?

Yes sir. Ran it straight through. I ramped up to 120mcg's and flat lined. Keep in mind i also used ketoflin after week two each day. Others have done this also. I also watched my temperature and i had a heart rate monitor on everytime i did cardio and was lifting.


I dropped some bf from it. Im more of a fan now of gw-501516. Lost more fat, endurance has went up, and has other benefits.

[Judah]

Yes sir. Ran it straight through. I ramped up to 120mcg's and flat lined. Keep in mind i also used ketoflin after week two each day. Others have done this also. I also watched my temperature and i had a heart rate monitor on everytime i did cardio and was lifting.


I dropped some bf from it. Im more of a fan now of gw-501516. Lost more fat, endurance has went up, and has other benefits.

Do you get your gw-501516 online?

[t-dogg]

Do you get your gw-501516 online?

Yes i did. I researched for a bit on it. Talked to a few. Personally with my experience and research its way better then clen and alot less stressful on the body.