do test only cycles even shut you down that hard ?

[hobnob]

just wondering if test only cycles are that hard to fully recover from ? or isit it more deca/tren that shut you down hard
if you were to run 150mg prop eod would that even fully shut you down ?

[freddy1418]

just wondering if test only cycles are that hard to fully recover from ? or isit it more deca/tren that shut you down hard
if you were to run 150mg prop eod would that even fully shut you down ?

Yes it would easily and it all depends on the person, length of cycle, oct and pct on how or if you bounce back.. some people can't bounce back after one cycle and others will cycle there whole life with no issues... its like a women having intercourse.. she could get pregnant the first time or she could try for years to get pregnant before it happens if ever... it all depends on the individual

[warmouth]

Test shuts you down right away. But it is a necessity when running compounds like tren or deca because they shut you down and you have no way of producing on your own.

[CrazyCanuck]

There is no shut down "hard" or "soft". Shut down is shut down.

[hobnob]

but i hear deca/tren will shut you down harder than test/winstrol/drol etc etc

[growpgrow]

would taking hcg in cycle stop you from shutting down when using non testosterones?

[JohnnyVegas]

but i hear deca/tren will shut you down harder than test/winstrol/drol etc etc

You are going to shut down no matter what you use. Yes, 150mg EOD (525mg/wk) of Test Prop will shut you down.

[Shsm]

You are going to shut down no matter what you use. Yes, 150mg EOD (525mg/wk) of Test Prop will shut you down.

Pretty sure that's dependent on what steroid you use, dosage, length of cycle, person, etc. Shut down implies that your body stops producing any testosterone and your natural levels go to zero.

[freddy1418]

would taking hcg in cycle stop you from shutting down when using non testosterones?

Yes test should be a base for all cycles

[JohnnyVegas]

Pretty sure that's dependent on what steroid you use, dosage, length of cycle, person, etc. Shut down implies that your body stops producing any testosterone and your natural levels go to zero.

I know what shut down means. Studies show that you will be shut down in two weeks of using 200mg/wk of Test Cyp. That is only a TRT dose. The OP asked about a dose of 525mg/wk of a shorter ester drug. I think we can expect full shut down pretty quickly.

The body keeps track of how much Test is in your system. If you inject a ton of exogenous Test it doesn't take long for the body to tell the testicles, "hey guys, we have more than enough here, hold off production for now."

[Bio-Active]

any amount of test you put in your body will cause shutdown. there is no topping yourself of so to speak. If you use more test than your body produces it will cause shut down. If you use less than your body produces then you will produce just that much less. Some people recover faster than others and some people do 1 cycle and never recover. everyone responds different. Do your research if not done correctly this can do more harm than good.

[Brohim]

all steriods cause shutdown. But some cause more "supression" than other's. Supression is how long it takes for your HPTA to return to producing normal test level's on it's own. The drugs that supress the most are Deca and Tren because Deca shuts down all three receptor sites, androgen, progestin, and estrogen. Tren is about 5x stronger than test. Test causes a good amount of supression on it's own. Estrogen can cause supression as well. That is why it is recommened to control estrogen from the start and not let it get out of hand.

A Var cycle will cause minimal supression and only a light pct would be needed.

[JohnnyVegas]

all steriods cause shutdown. But some cause more "supression" than other's. Supression is how long it takes for your HPTA to return to producing normal test level's on it's own. The drugs that supress the most are Deca and Tren because Deca shuts down all three receptor sites, androgen, progestin, and estrogen. Tren is about 5x stronger than test. Test causes a good amount of supression on it's own. Estrogen can cause supression as well. That is why it is recommened to control estrogen from the start and not let it get out of hand.

A Var cycle will cause minimal supression and only a light pct would be needed.

Thanks for posting that. I am on TRT, so I rarely read about PCT or suppression because it doesn't pertain to me...but I accidentally learned something today. Gotta love this place.

[Shsm]

Great info and no disrespect was intended, JohnnyVegas. We both learned something new.

[JohnnyVegas]

Great info and no disrespect was intended, JohnnyVegas. We both learned something new.

None taken. I was just trying to state the facts as I knew them.

[jyphotog]

I started Test for low T. So yall are saying, I could be on Test for the rest of my life because my body might not produce it again?

[freddy1418]

I started Test for low T. So yall are saying, I could be on Test for the rest of my life because my body might not produce it again?

Is it Dr perscribed? If so then probably cause its not something you can fix once its a problem.... if your body doesn't produce enough test on a regular your doctor will or should putyou on trt/hrt and that's a lifetime thing

[JohnnyVegas]

I started Test for low T. So yall are saying, I could be on Test for the rest of my life because my body might not produce it again?

Your body will still be capable of producing Test, but it will be at the diminished levels you have already experienced. Once natural levels get low enough that quality of life suffers, you can choose to live like that or take exogenous Test. But your days of having the high Test levels of an 18 year old are over.