Test c front load and general questions

[robbinthehood]

Test c front load and general questions
Alright, so let's start with the stats first:

24 years old
6 ft 3
2.5 years training
212 at 13% body fat

After researching for a couple months I decided to start my cycle with a med dose of hdrol followed by test cyp. I figured I would get a good kick with the hdrol and due to the low amount of sides associated with it i could get a good recognition of what test will do to my body and how I react.

Basic outline of this cycle will be:
Hdrol: 50/75/75/75/75/75
test cyp: beginning in week 3 of hdrol with 500 mg a week split mon/thurs
Adex at .25 eod beginning of week four of test injections but will play around with this.

PCT is nolvadex and clomid 50/50/50/50 and 40/20/20/20. Still unsure on this one. I have aroamasin as well if that would help as some threads have said. Also tossing around the idea of using clen/albuterol to shed some fat.

Now here is the confusing part. Due to another thread I saw recently I thought over the idea of front loading with test c at 1000 mg the first week to peak plasma levels. Should make it kick in right after the hdrol is done with if it is true. I have pinned 3 times now for a total of 750 Mgs and am willing to do another 250 if it would help. I can post the thread if it will help.

Now for the PCT I only have capsules so in doses of 50 mg for both nolvadex and clomid. I am fine with the clomid but the nolvadex is taken in lower dose. For that can I just take the whole 50 and half capsule when I need the 20 or is the higher amount not negligible?

Diet is 40/20/20 at 3200 cals but will bump it up to around 3500. I am looking to lean bulk. Might up the cals if y'all recommend.

Thanks guys and sorry for the noob questions

[robbinthehood]

You're right. After looking at some other threads that looks like a bad idea.

Heres the general gist of it,

Testosterone cypionate 's half-life is 8 days (Davis***8217;s Drug Guide for Nurses 9th Ed.)

For simplicity, let's assume a dosage of 500mg test cyp pinned every 8 days
Day 1 ***8211; 500mg (remember that the bioavailability at this point is 0 because it takes 8 days to metabolize 250mg, and this will be true for every dose that follows)

Day 9 ***8211; 500mg (remember what was stated on day 1), so at this point you have 250mg remaining in the body from day 1 because your body has used 250mg over the past 8 days)

Day 17 ***8211; 500mg, at this point you have 250 from Day 9 and 125 from day 1 (don***8217;t confuse yourself here, the body does not process 250mg every 8 days, it simply reduces the remaining by half every 8 days)

Day 25 ***8211; 500mg, at this point you have 250mg from Day 17, 125 from Day 9, and now just 62.5 remaining from day 1

Day 33 ***8211; 500mg, at this point you have 250mg from Day 25, 125 from Day 17, 62.5 from Day 9, and 31.7 from day 1.

The easy way to keep going on with this formula is to take the smallest number (31.7 in this case) and reduce it by half, then add it to your existing numbers for the total, and then repeat.

The total looks like this:
The first 8 days your body will metabolize 250mg
The second 8 days your body will metabolize half of the remaining 250 (125) and half of the 500 (250) administered on day 9 for a total of 375.
The third 8 days your body will metabolize 250, 125, and 62.5 for a total of 437.5. This is one reason it takes a couple of weeks to start noticing the effects of this drug.
To keep figuring out the bioavailability just keep reducing your smallest number by half and adding it to the total as described earlier.

Here is a chart demonstrating the bioavailability and how long it takes to even reach that 500mg per 8 day mark. For this demonstration we will use 8 days for 1 wk.
Wk 1 ***8211; 250mg
Wk 2 ***8211; 375mg
Wk 3 ***8211; 437.5mg
Wk 4 ***8211; 469.2mg
Wk 5 ***8211; 485mg
Wk 6 ***8211; 492.9mg
Wk 7 ***8211; 496.8mg
Wk 8 ***8211; 498.7mg
And so on***8230;.

So what does all this mean? Well for one it brings up a very important issue of frontloading. To frontload, you simply double your weekly dose just for that first week. It would look like this:
Wk 1 ***8211; 1000mg cyp
Wk 2 ***8211; 500mg cyp
Wk 3 ***8211; 500mg cyp
And continue on at the normal 500mg/wk

The way this works is simple, during week 1 your body will metabolize 500mg of the first dose leaving you with 500 remaining. The second week your body will metabolize 250mg from the first dose and also 250 from the second dose for a total of 500. Now do you see how beneficial frontloading really is? You will stay constant at 500mg/wk throughout your cycle instead of tapering up by not frontloading.


Quote taken from this forum.

[fit2bOld]

^^^^^ this whole thing probably just confused the hell out of you and I don't think you give a shit about bioavailabilty in the first place.

Lose the clen and albuterol: bulk and cut is best done with diet. Choose one!
You don't say how long you intend to run the Test C 12 weeks
Easy enough to divide up the PCT to the proper dose.

[robbinthehood]

There's another link that I can provide with a study done on warriorfx but I'm on my phone right now. Plan to bulk but supposedly clen helps you keep your gains a little due to lowering cortisol. Just want to keep gains and minimalize gaining any more bf.

Cycle is planned out at 14 to 16 weeks. Thanks for the reply

[ScotchGuard02]

I agree with fit2bOld, drop the clen and albuterol if you're bulking. First, you're gonna hate the shakes and insomnia. Second, you're going to increase your body metabolism by a lot and when you're burning energy your body doesn't distinguish between burning muscles and burning fat. If you're bulking, then bulk like the hulk. Once you're done bulking then concentrate on cutting. My .02

[robbinthehood]

Thanks guys. Will definitely leave the clen/albuterol out of it. Assuming gains are made at a steady pace with 3600 cals. I should continue that during pct or slightly higher? How long should I wait if I want to cut down after?

Thanks again

[robbinthehood]

Bump

[robbinthehood]

Also debating on continuing 5/3/1 Bbb or layne nortons phat. Also have done Lyle McDonald's generic bulking and enjoyed it.

With phat and generic bulking I would hit each group 2x per week which on gear I think would be beneficial.