Well I finally got one for a 100 bucks, for making a right turn on red. I am contesting the damn thing cause there's no sign that says otherwise so let's wait and see what happens.
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Well I finally got one for a 100 bucks, for making a right turn on red. I am contesting the damn thing cause there's no sign that says otherwise so let's wait and see what happens.
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Did, you not make a complete stop? . I've gotten them before. They are no points. Its not worth the time to fight itOriginally Posted by Eddie_m63
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Is that illegal? And I wouldn't fight it either.
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I can't stand red light cameras. Mostly because there's about two weeks when you're pretty sure you got one but aren't positive haha
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You need a 9500ci radar detector. Built in GPS warns you of all red light cameras.
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Well there's no sign that makes it illegal and that's why I am contesting it by mail.
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Yeah I'll have to look into that. There's an app I have called waze it's a gps that tells you where they are and also if there are cops hiding out to catch you speeding. It's pretty cool but I only run it when I don't know where I'm going haha
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See nothing
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That app is junk. You're dependent on other users. So if I see a red light or a cop, I have to log in to the app and tag that spot, then you will be able to see it. I doubt it will be around long. Not enough dedicated people out there to make the app successful long term.
I travel a lot. The 9500ci saved my ass more times than I can count. Laser diffusers, too! Front and rear protection. I've passed cops and seen them look at their laser gun like it's broken when I drive by. Got it on all my cars.
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Even if there id no sign you have yo make a complete stop before turning on red
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It's better for red light cameras cause once theyre in they're in with hidden cops they move around. I've never logged anything in myself.
How much does one of those go for?
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I'm curious tho. If this camera takes still photo's, how would they know he didn't fully stop?
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Retails for $1600. You really need a good tech to install it tho. Someone that can solder and heatshrink, build brackets for the sensors and not use velcro. An entry level tech can install this for $300. A good tech would charge $550+ depending on the car.
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Thats basic law. There is only signs If u are not allowed to turn right on a red light. Unless u live in quebec, then its illegal to turn right on a ref light period.
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you turned on a red light...without coming to a complete stop first?? this changes everything..lol Eddie, tell me something.. where on this planet can you make a right turn on a red without coming to a complete stop first?
want some cheap advice? pay the ticket..
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cars behind him and light co-ordination. (this is a guess)
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What does the picture they sent you as proof look like OP?
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Eddie we're missing the left portion of the photos..or at least the part that would show the light hanging in from of you. usually there is a sign hanging/posted there if you are not able to turn right on the red. it's not always on the right side of the roadway.
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I'd be careful of fighting the ticket. I tried to fight a right of way violation and lost. The $150 ticket ended up costing me over $500/year for three years in insurance, when I could have just done traffic school and paid the stupid ticket.
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I always wondered why they called it a "California turn"? Then I moved to CA and saw that everybody and their brother never comes to a complete stop.
The funny thing is, I had a CHP give me a ticket a few years ago for this exact same thing. He was in the opposite direction of me at a stop light, and presumed I failed to stop at a red light while making a right turn. What he failed to listed to was that I had one of those lights that was also supported with a "Green turn arrow" for right turns. The ticket in California for this was $440. I took my pics to court and was exonerated of the charges. They should have made the officer pay the fine for all the hassle I had to go through ...
Eddie, as far as your case goes ... You won't win. Like I said, my case was supported by green arrows that "legally" allowed me to make the right turn. Like Mickey stated, there's nowhere in this world where there's a posted sign that says, "Must stop at a red light". That's what the red light means, you must come to a complete stop, then proceed if safe to do so. And only $100. Hell, they charge more than that out here for a driving while talking on the cell phone ticket. Cut your losses!
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1) you MUST come to a complete stop at a red light before proceeding with a right turn. This is legal unless otherwise marked.
2) the cameras are wired to work when the light turns red and they use lazer to decect vehicle movement
3) they (in most states) are a civil infraction only and therefore do not count against you license. They are complience based, meaning there is no real legal penelty for not paying it like an arrest warrant and such. Although they can impose the civil penalty and garnash wages or withhold tax returns.
4) Most law enforcement operate radar units that are only switched on as the meet a vehicle. The activate the radar that sends out a radio wave lenght that bounces off of the offenders vehicle and the compression and time of return are measured by the device. This happens before any $1600 radar unit knows what happened. The only use for a radar unit is if the officer has activated the radar on a vehicle near you and you pick up some of the radio waves. If you are a lone vehicle on the road and speeding your expensive radar detector just gave you a false sense of security.
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In minnesota the state spent millions installing them... the libs got it right by having the supreme court strike it down...
wtf, you can't send me a ticket, i didn't do anything... that was someone else in that car...
I have the right in court to question the officer and witness that accuse me of breaking the law... where is that person??
in your case,,,, dohhhh
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I do agree that you would win. Its been shot down in many states. But for 100 bucks id rather not spend the day in court
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No sir. The way the 9500ci works is if they shoot you with laser, they will get no reading. Regardless of the distance or time they pull the trigger as it constantly sends a light back. With a range of 13 miles, radar will be detected WAY in advance as the cop is targeting other vehicles. This unit prevents false alarms from RF emitting machinery/doors, etc... If its triggered in the same spot more than once (or whatever you set it for), it will remember that spot and pre-warn you. Even the traffic cams that flash for a fraction of a second every minute or so to deliver traffic information do not false this unit.
To top it off, Escort Radar will pay for your tickets. That's how effective this unit is. It's not a radar you can buy at Autozone. Your bumpers have to come off for this thing to get installed. Plus it's fun trying to locate the hiding cop
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Laser is not radar...2 different devices. Laser units must be stationary to work and they may be detected or jammed (I am not very knowledgable on laser).No sir. The way the 9500ci works is if they shoot you with laser, they will get no reading. Regardless of the distance or time they pull the trigger as it constantly sends a light back. With a range of 13 miles, radar will be detected WAY in advance as the cop is targeting other vehicles. This unit prevents false alarms from RF emitting machinery/doors, etc... If its triggered in the same spot more than once (or whatever you set it for), it will remember that spot and pre-warn you. Even the traffic cams that flash for a fraction of a second every minute or so to deliver traffic information do not false this unit.
To top it off, Escort Radar will pay for your tickets. That's how effective this unit is. It's not a radar you can buy at Autozone. Your bumpers have to come off for this thing to get installed. Plus it's fun trying to locate the hiding cop
Yes that 13 miles works IF the officer has activated the radar on OTHER vehicles. If you are the ONLY vehicle he has checked the unit can not beat the speed of the radio waves. Now the odds are in your favor you arenot the only vehicle being checked but.....
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I know it's not the same, that's why I mentioned both. You're talking about Pulse radar. That is not used anymore. That's why continuous wave (Doppler) radar was introduced and because that became worthless laser came about. If you see a cop sitting in his car, he is using continuous wave. If his door is open or on a bike and pointing at you, he is using laser.
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Yes it is doppler and the problem is that most officers operate radar in a standby mode so that the unit is not ommiting a signal until activated. If you happen to be the only vehicle targeted then by the time your detector tells you danger ahead...it's to late.
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Wait, spy do you live in MN too?
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To me the issue has nothing to do with whether or not he actually violated a traffic law (which obviously he did). The real problem is if it's within the right's of the local law enforcement to charge and ticket people based on nothing more than a picture a camera took. It opens the door to some really scary stuff imo, imagine the possibilities if cameras and video were everywhere and weren't limited to just traffic violations.
I don't know if this is really true or not but a buddy of mine's dad got a ticket in the mail for running a red light. It had several pictures that showed his license plate, the traffic light, and the elapsed time at the bottom of each pic. He supposedly wrote them a check for the amount of the fine and took several pics of the check and then mailed them back just the pics of the check lmao. Pic of traffic violation = pic of check for ticket, sounds about right to me lol.
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Man these ****ing things are every where in NY. All you see is flashes when a light turns red. Its crazy. I hope they never do this for speeding
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Don't blame the cops...the ones here anyhow are owned and serviced by a private company and the CITIES purchase or lease them as a revenue builder. Most law enforcement I know don't even care for them...and they don't get the $$$. It is a civil infraction and lae enforcement has no jurisdiction over civil code...only criminal
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