Tren w/o cabergoline

[some1else]

Could one take tren & sustanol without cabergoline for 2 weeks?

Say I have.. aromasin, nolva, letro, clomid,

and I took my 1st shot already, but apparently the cabergoline wont be here for maybe up to two weeks. (longer than expected)
Would it be safe to continue taking shots?

I'm not very prone to gyno, but always keep it in the back of my head.. no one wants it.

[Knockout_Power]

its too late now, but never start a cycle until you have the complete list in your hands. Shit can happen, and usually does. Delayed shipments, wrong order, no supply etc...

anything used to combat sides whether it be ERSE or PRSE are not a 100% necessity. If you dont encounter the sides, or they are tolerable, the usage of an "Anti" compound is up to each individual user.

[Lunk1]

As long as you are using an AI and keeping your E2 levels in check, the chances of needing to use Caber or Prami is very low. I normnaly rec. just keeping it on hand anyhow. Concentrate on your AI usage and dialing it in and you will be fine.

[lovbyts]

Keep the test/tren at lower dose (not to high) if you have any sides until your Caber arrives. Running the Aromisin should be fine.

[RoadToHuge]

You could usr ar-r and get some prami by wednesday. Its more difficult to use but also raises libido more than caber, or so im told.. I use prami and I love the libido spike. Take right before you goto bed and slowly ramp up the dose to avoid issues.

You could try utterly crushing estrogen and thus preventing elevated prolactin (aromasin at a decent dosage), but I do not know how healthy that is.

[The Bear 79]

As long as you are using an AI and keeping your E2 levels in check, the chances of needing to use Caber or Prami is very low. I normnaly rec. just keeping it on hand anyhow. Concentrate on your AI usage and dialing it in and you will be fine.

Agreed. I have been effectively controlling prolactin with an AI on some very high doses of Tren for about 10 months now.

[Lunk1]

[QUOTE=RoadToHuge;6326886]You could usr ar-r and get some prami by wednesday. Its more difficult to use but also raises libido more than caber, or so im told.. I use prami and I love the libido spike. Take right before you goto bed and slowly ramp up the dose to avoid issues.

You could try utterly crushing estrogen and thus preventing elevated prolactin (aromasin at a decent dosage), but I do not know how healthy that is.[/QUOTE]

NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!! You need estrogen just as much as you need testosterone. The side effects of crushing your E2 is not fun!

[The Bear 79]

Where the hell do these guys come up with this sh!t Lunk?!

[Lunk1]

Where the hell do these guys come up with this sh!t Lunk?!

Lack of bad experiences....dumb asses like me had to learn the hard way because I had no idea web sites like this existed.

[Knockout_Power]

Agreed. I have been effectively controlling prolactin with an AI on some very high doses of Tren for about 10 months now.

running Tren for 10 months? Or on and off for that long?

[The Bear 79]

running Tren for 10 months? Or on and off for that long?

Blast & cruise

[RoadToHuge]

Exactly why I eluding to the health effects, I should have worded my post differently. I know you need it for your joints but other than that I am uneducated on the subject as far as other processes that require estrogen.... Better to have the Prami by Wednesday.

[some1else]

I can't get prami from ar-r.. it's sold out... trust me, I would have done it already lol

[Lunk1]

Exactly why I eluding to the health effects, I should have worded my post differently. I know you need it for your joints but other than that I am uneducated on the subject as far as other processes that require estrogen.... Better to have the Prami by Wednesday.

I would worry very little about PRL control. Very few ppl are prone to high prolactin levels and again...if your E2 is controlled through proper AI usage, you will never need the PRL control (although it's nice to have it in the war chest).

There are a ton of horrible sides that come from completely crushing your E2 levels. Do some googling! Having too low or no estrogen has most of the same sides as your E2 being too high!

[RoadToHuge]

Blast & cruise

What is a cruise dose of Tren? Not going to do it but just curious..

[lovbyts]

Exactly why I eluding to the health effects, I should have worded my post differently. I know you need it for your joints but other than that I am uneducated on the subject as far as other processes that require estrogen.... Better to have the Prami by Wednesday.

you still need it to grow, for your libido and many things. Low or No E2 is just as bad as high E2

[The Bear 79]

Exactly why I eluding to the health effects, I should have worded my post differently. I know you need it for your joints but other than that I am uneducated on the subject as far as other processes that require estrogen.... Better to have the Prami by Wednesday.

I suggest you start digging man, estrogen serves a much greater purpose in the male body than "joint lube". To be honest, I've never even heard of estrogen being a joint lube...............though I may have just learned something new...........I'll look into that.

Knowledge is power.

[The Bear 79]

What is a cruise dose of Tren? Not going to do it but just curious..

When I cruise, I drop the Tren & run a low dose Test only.

[RoadToHuge]

I can't get prami from ar-r.. it's sold out... trust me, I would have done it already lol

Ahh, sorry!

[some1else]

its ok.. the item just poped up in NY.

I should get it soon.. thanks everyone.
::close thread::

[The Bear 79]

NY eh...........I bet songdog would be willing to pick it up & run a few tests to see if its legit.............

[AnabolicDoc]

I was going to post my 2 cents, but I more or less completely agree with Lunk1's posts for whatever it's worth.

But have u run tren before? If not, how about nandrolone? Did u suffer from prolactin or progesterone related side effects? In either event, an AI suffices for most ppl it seems.

Worst case, if u desperately need cabergoline go see a doctor and tell him your story. He has to help you whether or not he agrees with your lifestyle choice. It's not a doctor's job to judge a patient's lifestyle choices but rather to help with the given situation and providing guidance that he sees fit (for instance, advising u to stop AAS use). A doctor not helping an AAS user with side effects is no different than him (or her) not treating a drug user or alcoholic that overdosed. Sorry for jumping on the soapbox there, but I just feel that u should be able to turn to a doctor for some cabergoline, pramipexole or bromocriptine if needed in your situation.

[warmouth]

I was going to post my 2 cents, but I more or less completely agree with Lunk1's posts for whatever it's worth.

But have u run tren before? If not, how about nandrolone? Did u suffer from prolactin or progesterone related side effects? In either event, an AI suffices for most ppl it seems.

Worst case, if u desperately need cabergoline go see a doctor and tell him your story. He has to help you whether or not he agrees with your lifestyle choice. It's not a doctor's job to judge a patient's lifestyle choices but rather to help with the given situation and providing guidance that he sees fit (for instance, advising u to stop AAS use). A doctor not helping an AAS user with side effects is no different than him (or her) not treating a drug user or alcoholic that overdosed. Sorry for jumping on the soapbox there, but I just feel that u should be able to turn to a doctor for some cabergoline, pramipexole or bromocriptine if needed in your situation.

This is not a good idea either. NEVER tell your doctor youare using unless you absolutley have too. That goes on your record and when your insurance gets ahold of that tidbit of info, good luck getting them not to drop you, or any other insurance in the future accepting you.

[lovbyts]

I was going to post my 2 cents, but I more or less completely agree with Lunk1's posts for whatever it's worth.

But have u run tren before? If not, how about nandrolone? Did u suffer from prolactin or progesterone related side effects? In either event, an AI suffices for most ppl it seems.

Worst case, if u desperately need cabergoline go see a doctor and tell him your story. He has to help you whether or not he agrees with your lifestyle choice. It's not a doctor's job to judge a patient's lifestyle choices but rather to help with the given situation and providing guidance that he sees fit (for instance, advising u to stop AAS use). A doctor not helping an AAS user with side effects is no different than him (or her) not treating a drug user or alcoholic that overdosed. Sorry for jumping on the soapbox there, but I just feel that u should be able to turn to a doctor for some cabergoline, pramipexole or bromocriptine if needed in your situation.

Wow! This is sort of career suicide if you ask me. If I thought it was a life or death situation maybe??? No way would I tell a doctor just to get what I needed a little sooner or if it was out of stock somewhere. There are other choices.

You dont seem to realize the ramifications of anything like that being in your chart and your future insurance coverage or possible employer may turn you down due to it. Dont think they cant/look in your file. Your insurance shares a LOT more information that you think and privacy laws are changing all the time but not in your favor. Privacy does not count when it comes to insurance or employers. What if you apply for a job that requires a security clearance? You can be sure they check everything in your medical.

Best to wait until you have everything you need before starting cycle.