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[Lazarov]

Test E 500mg weeks 1-12
Arimidex .25mg ED weeks 1-13
HCG 500mg/week weeks 2-13

PCT- Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/20/20

Is Nolva sufficient for PCT, should I add Clomid? Or not really necessary. Thanks.

[kmms]

arimidex is typically dosed eod. it's quite powerful stuff, you may consider eod unless sides are crazy.

[marcus300]

At 21yrs old and 175lbs at 5ft 10" you really need to learn how to build a natural base before going on steroids. You also need to reconsider your approach because shutting down your testosterone at your age can result in some serious sides....

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ids&highlight=

[Back In Black]

I'm not sure how many times, in how many different threads and by how many people you need to be told!

Take the nutrition advice you have and get on with it!!!!!

[Lazarov]

arimidex is typically dosed eod. it's quite powerful stuff, you may consider eod unless sides are crazy.

Yea, I've heard people do .5mg EOD. Or .25mg ED. But unless there are noticeable sides, I guess even .25mg EOD should be sufficient.

[Lazarov]

I'm not sure how many times, in how many different threads and by how many people you need to be told!

Take the nutrition advice you have and get on with it!!!!!

How about you mind your f****** business? People like you need to stop acting like you're all about "hard work and nutrition" when in reality you're taking the easy way out. So for you to be so arrogant as to give me s**t about it, get off your high horse. I never asked you for your opinion on this. The thread isn't titled "Should I or shouldn't I take steroids." I think you're in the wrong place.

[Lunk1]

I'm not sure how many times, in how many different threads and by how many people you need to be told!

Take the nutrition advice you have and get on with it!!!!!

Pretty bad when one of the nutrition guys has to come to Q&A to chew your AAS lol. You need to stop being a little kid and start acting like a man Laz!!!

Keep up the good work Stem

[kmms]

*exits stage left

[austinite]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...eks&highlight=

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.UHKGV5jA_wk

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.UHKGcpjA_wk

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.UHKGi5jA_wk

[Lunk1]

How about you mind your f****** business? People like you need to stop acting like you're all about "hard work and nutrition" when in reality you're taking the easy way out. So for you to be so arrogant as to give me s**t about it, get off your high horse. I never asked you for your opinion on this. The thread isn't titled "Should I or shouldn't I take steroids." I think you're in the wrong place.

The likelyhood of you getting much GOOD help at this point may have just gone bye bye!!!! Nice rant against a guy who helps ppl every damn day out of the kindness of his heart!

[austinite]

How about you mind your f****** business? People like you need to stop acting like you're all about "hard work and nutrition" when in reality you're taking the easy way out. So for you to be so arrogant as to give me s**t about it, get off your high horse. I never asked you for your opinion on this. The thread isn't titled "Should I or shouldn't I take steroids." I think you're in the wrong place.

Part of being young for SOME kids is immaturity and arrogance. Which you've managed to display clearly. With an attitude like that, you most certainly shouldn't touch anything, regardless of age.

[Back In Black]

How about you mind your f****** business? People like you need to stop acting like you're all about "hard work and nutrition" when in reality you're taking the easy way out. So for you to be so arrogant as to give me s**t about it, get off your high horse. I never asked you for your opinion on this. The thread isn't titled "Should I or shouldn't I take steroids." I think you're in the wrong place.

Ha ha ha ha, you immature little knob. You assume I cycle? Ha ha ha you little prick, I am clean.

Go fvck up your system and gain fvck all from your 2500 calorie with 900cals from fat diet. Fvckwit!

[Lazarov]

I don't know wtf is wrong with all of you. Half the people are self-righteous, the other half are a**-kissers like Lunk1.

[austinite]

I don't know wtf is wrong with all of you. Half the people are self-righteous, the other half are a**-kissers like Lunk1.

Go to your room. Seriously.

[Lazarov]

Ha ha ha ha, you immature little knob. You assume I cycle? Ha ha ha you little prick, I am clean.

Go fvck up your system and gain fvck all from your 2500 calorie with 900cals from fat diet. Fvckwit!

What are you doing on a steroid forum you idiot?

[Lazarov]

Go to your room. Seriously.

In love with your mother?

[Lunk1]

Another keyboard tuff guy!

[Lazarov]

The problem is that all of you need to stop acting like you're everyone's parent. It's ridiculous.

[Back In Black]

What are you doing on a steroid forum you idiot?

I'm the idiot? Seriously? Do you know how idiotic that makes YOU sound.

Enjoy the little time left you have here!

[Lazarov]

I'm the idiot? Seriously? Do you know how idiotic that makes YOU sound.

Enjoy the little time left you have here!

Get f**ked you prick

[austinite]

Look, we want new members. Look at the introduction forum. Everyone jumps to greet new comers. Regardless of age, we welcome everyone over 18. Everyone here has had your best interest in mind. I understand it's frustrating, not hearing what you want to hear, but this is reality and a lot of us want you to learn from our mistakes. How could that possibly be a bad thing?

Did you think you wanted to use AAS 6 or 7 years ago? no! You were too busy skateboarding. So in 6 to 7 years you will think differently again. It's human nature. Just relax and learn.

[austinite]

Marcus, please lock this if possible.

[Lazarov]

I know you guys will just keep it coming, noticing how you're on this forum 24 hours a day. When do you have time to train?

[MuscleInk]

Yea, I've heard people do .5mg EOD. Or .25mg ED. But unless there are noticeable sides, I guess even .25mg EOD should be sufficient.

Dude....you will do an enormous disservice to yourself if you don't listen to Marcus and Stem. Is gaining a few pounds of muscle worth the possibility of destroying some of your endocrine now or impairing its function later in life? Some of the effects can be permanent. Waiting a few years isn't the worst thing in the world and in the mean time you can perfect your nutrition and training.

Rushing into this prematurely, you could lose the gains you get without the proper nutrition and you could quite possibly be back here in a few months asking for help with depression, anxiety, erectile dysfunction, or a loss of sex drive.

The advice offered is genuinely provided to help you now and for greater success later.

A smart person learns from their mistakes. A smarter person learns from the mistakes of others (as wisely stated by Kelkel - one of resident experts here).

[marcus300]

How about you mind your f****** business? People like you need to stop acting like you're all about "hard work and nutrition" when in reality you're taking the easy way out. So for you to be so arrogant as to give me s**t about it, get off your high horse. I never asked you for your opinion on this. The thread isn't titled "Should I or shouldn't I take steroids." I think you're in the wrong place.

I don't know wtf is wrong with all of you. Half the people are self-righteous, the other half are a**-kissers like Lunk1.

You will be banned if you carry on breaking the rules and flamming....

We are trying to help you before you make a bad mistake yet you get angry because your not getting the answers you want to hear.

You havent got low test for your age but if you cycle you probably going to get up halfing your natural test which will give you low test and trust me its not very nice to have low test in your 20's. Just think how bad it would be not being able to get hard, low sex drive, muscle loss, weight loss, fat gain and depressed.

You need to build a base, if you can at your age and test levels your wasting your time going on cycle anyway because your diet cant and wont support any new tissue and to couple that your test levels after the cycle are going to be really low and may never recover so holding onto any gains is going to be impossible.

Dont come here name calling people who want to help you and steer you in the right direction because if you dont listen to us your going to be crying in your room wishing you had in a few months, now listen to the advice from guys who know

Best of luck

[Lunk1]

The problem is that all of you need to stop acting like you're everyone's parent. It's ridiculous.

You need to stop acting like your a 2 year old that needs ppl in here to act as your fkn parents! You have been given VERY sound advise by vets with years of experience but unfortunatly nobody has told you what you want to hear.

Do your 8.5 week 400mg test cycle, use Adex at .25mg a day...

There no poof! Be gone!!

[Lazarov]

Look, we want new members. Look at the introduction forum. Everyone jumps to greet new comers. Regardless of age, we welcome everyone over 18. Everyone here has had your best interest in mind. I understand it's frustrating, not hearing what you want to hear, but this is reality and a lot of us want you to learn from our mistakes. How could that possibly be a bad thing?

Did you think you wanted to use AAS 6 or 7 years ago? no! You were too busy skateboarding. So in 6 to 7 years you will think differently again. It's human nature. Just relax and learn.

You guys treat young members like s*** and are extremely rude to people who aren't as experienced. Great marketing strategy

[marcus300]

Thread locked

[*Admin*]

I personally am not happy with how this thread turned out... First of all I while I do agree with the advice from each of you it is not what was asked for in this thread... now the perfect response would have been this is what you should do but this is what you want to do... forget his age and give him the best answers you can... YES I know in a year or so he will be asking for advice to fix what he ****ed up if he is not to embarrassed... but that is his life... People in general do not want good advice (at 18 to 24) they want to hear what they want to hear nothing more... PLEASE remember back to that age the reason you know it is not good for you is... some of you ****ed up yourselves... and the ones that didn't listen to others that did...

So while yes you want to help them not mess up you need to just forget the age and answer because they are doing it either way... If you do not want to give info then... just walk away from the thread...

NOW to the OP you have some of the most intelligent guys anywhere trying to help you... the least you could do is be polite and say thanks but that is not what I want to hear. These guys were nice and were trying to help you... then you changed the tune...

Either way lets all get a better grip on how to handle this type of post.... as no one came out looking to good...

*admin*