best keepable gain cycle

[hyphy_beast]

If training and diet and everything were kept on point, what would some of you advanced cyclers suggest as the best stack to build actual new lean mass with quality gains you will keep post cycle? Eq? Tren? Deca?

I understand loss of gains is expected, and diet/training have to stay on point. But in your experience are there certain compounds or stacks that are best for building long term muscle?

[MickeyKnox]

tren, hands down.

edit: response was to "build actual new lean mass with quality gains" all things being equal.

[Lunk1]

I dont honestly think one KEEPS gains beeter than the other. Thats all determined by a number of other things!

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i remember in high school a LOONNNGGG time ago hearing about steroids (before i knew anything about them) and if i recall correctly people used to refer to a "keep rating" difft compounds had.

funny i havent thought about it until now..

[Sworder]

The body doesn't differentiate what AAS is used to produce the muscle. In actuality there are two ARs in the ligand so you can have a testosterone molecule and a trenbolone molecule producing expression. In short, it doesn't matter as Lunk says. Some drugs bloat you more/less which may give off an illusion that you are losing more/less but the actual muscle mass remains the same.

[hyphy_beast]

The body doesn't differentiate what AAS is used to produce the muscle. In actuality there are two ARs in the ligand so you can have a testosterone molecule and a trenbolone molecule producing expression. In short, it doesn't matter as Lunk says. Some drugs bloat you more/less which may give off an illusion that you are losing more/less but the actual muscle mass remains the same.

OK So in that case which one produces the most new muscle growth? I guess that would be the one that is most anabolic? So tren like Mickey said?

[Lunk1]

OK So in that case which one produces the most new muscle growth? I guess that would be the one that is most anabolic? So tren like Mickey said?

Tren by FAR!!!!

[MickeyKnox]

sworder, although the body doesn't differentiate, the body reacts differently to different compounds.

example: all things being equal (length of cycle, diet, bf, exercise routine, body type) will eq produce the same results as tren? will eq produce the same results as deca? no need to answer, both rhetorical q's.

the real question here is what would you chose..tren or deca?

[MickeyKnox]

OK So in that case which one produces the most new muscle growth? I guess that would be the one that is most anabolic? So tren like Mickey said?

tren is the most anabolic steroid. hence, my choice.

[hyphy_beast]

although the body doesn't differentiate, the body reacts differently to different compounds.

example: all things being equal (length of cycle, diet, bf, exercise routine, body type) will eq produce the same results as tren? will eq produce the same results as deca? no need to answer, both rhetorical q's.

the real question here is what would you chose..tren or deca?

Well to be honest I've read plenty that tren is the king of aas, and I obviously want to try it. But I think I'm a year or more away from being ready to do so. Until the time comes I'm looking to run npp in my next cycle. Or would anyone suggest something different?

[Lunk1]

sworder, although the body doesn't differentiate, the body reacts differently to different compounds.

example: all things being equal (length of cycle, diet, bf, exercise routine, body type) will eq produce the same results as tren? will eq produce the same results as deca? no need to answer, both rhetorical q's.

the real question here is what would you chose..tren or deca?

I guess I concentrated on the "gains KEPT" part vs gains made!

[Sworder]

Tren is king!

[hyphy_beast]

I guess I concentrated on the "gains KEPT" part vs gains made!

Ya I know my question was somewhat confusing. I'm fairly sure you guys know what I'm looking to do. Just trying to decide what I want to run next cycle. Not experienced enough for tren yet tho

[warmouth]

Well to be honest I've read plenty that tren is the king of aas, and I obviously want to try it. But I think I'm a year or more away from being ready to do so. Until the time comes I'm looking to run npp in my next cycle. Or would anyone suggest something different?

Lucky you! That is a good one, from what I hear

[hyphy_beast]

Lucky you! That is a good one, from what I hear

Ya I guess it's fairly hard to come by I'll consider myself lucky then.