Questions on 2 diffrent cycles for a frist time user

[NateThekiller]

Just looking to get info for a cycle the two options I was recommend are: (this will be my first cycle)

1)dbol stacked with t400 400ccs a week
2)100mg of tren every 5 days stacked with 250mg test

I'm 6'2 225lbs 22 years old

Bench 315
Squat 605
Dead lift 500

Ive been told Im young for Aas not saying Im going to take them, researching and looking at options and info from experienced users.

What I would like to get stronger as well as faster since Im a football player. (this would be a off season cycle)

This is what I was told from a friend with experience with Aas ( dbol will bulk u up but u get big and swollen from retaining water, that'll slow u down, plus u don't want to be eating pills everyday its tough on ur kidneys)

Any input would be great!
Thanks

[DanB]

Cycle a is a good place to start for beginner

Do you have a plan for a a.i and pct?

Both are essential, the a.i will help avoid the water retention you said you were worried about

Pct will help kickstart your natty test since it will be shut down from the cycle

Do you know the esters in your test blend as this will determine when you start your pct and also how long do you plan on running the cycle for? And im guessing it will be around 40mg dbol for the first 4 weeks?

Swifto has a sticky at the top of the page called why an a.i is needed on cycle, this will help you understand why it needed, how it works etc check it out

[NateThekiller]

I havent got anything yet, but cycle 1 would be 20-40mg of dbol for 6 weeks and t400 for 12-16 weeks ive looked into nolvadex for a pct looks the best, have not looked into Aromatase inhibitors.

[DanB]

I havent got anything yet, but cycle 1 would be 20-40mg of dbol for 6 weeks and t400 for 12-16 weeks ive looked into nolvadex for a pct looks the best, have not looked into Aromatase inhibitors.

Look into clomid to add to pct,

Aromasin or armidex for an a.i

12wk test will suffice

Look into the above, throw a couple ideas in here and ill help you make changes if they are needed

Check out the thread on the a.i it has all you need to know in the one place, couldnt be any easier...

Your nearly there, little more reading and you should have all the info you need to run this cycle as safetly as possible

Also if you want to stick up.your diet and ill have a look to see if it meets your goals, its essential to build and maintain new muscle tissue, a poor diet means poor results from.cycle and good.diet is good results, so simple and also regularly skipped over and then people wonder why they didnt get the results they were hoping for

[NateThekiller]

Thanks a lot for the advice Ill read up on a.i asap ill put up my diet soon i have to make a meal plan yet ill get back to you on that one

[gymfu]

I thought you said you didn't want the dbol?

My advise is to run test only for your first cycle...... 3 years from now!

Have you had bloodwork done? At 23 you t levels should be high naturally.

[P.Money]

Forget AAS until you're 25. 6'2 @ 225Lbs is already pretty good stats. Sounds to me like you need a better pylometric workout program and a good diet.

[DanB]

Forget AAS until you're 25. 6'2 @ 225Lbs is already pretty good stats. Sounds to me like you need a better pylometric workout program and a good diet.

Admin has asked members to stop telling people they too young, instead he wants members to advise.of risks and if they understand and want to continue then to advise them on how to cycle properly as saying your too young dosnt help anybody and they then leave and still run the cycle and do harm because they didnt get the vital info such as proper pct a.i etc they were simply rediculed, makes sense this approach too i.m.o

just thought i would let you know on admins wishes as you may of missed the posts

thanks

[DanB]

Thanks a lot for the advice Ill read up on a.i asap ill put up my diet soon i have to make a meal plan yet ill get back to you on that one

yeah cool just bump this thread whenever your ready and ill prob see it the same day and have a look for you

[NateThekiller]

Like i said above (Ive been told Im young for Aas not saying Im going to take them, researching and looking at options and info from experienced users.) if you cared to read the whole post

[fit2bOld]

To answer your question stick to the Test and test only for a first cycle
You need to research and RUN an AI
PCT should be nolvadex and clomid

In the meantime read the educational threads about the effect of AAS and the young and all the other educational threads in this site after 3 years you will be ready to go after many hours of base building at the gym and perfecting your diet....