winstrol&clen&t3

[Gioz]

What do you think of clen cycle \ win \ t3?

win 50mg x4week
2week on clen \ 2OFF
t3 80mcg 3week
Pct
nolvadex 3 \ 4week
t3 30mcg 2week





1.66 - 76kg\167.55lbs

[Gioz]

no advice?

[warmouth]

Age? Stats? No testosterone?

[warmouth]

Winny is highly supressive for me. I dont thing you will see or get much with that proposed cycle. I personally think it would be money/time wasted. I would drop the winny and run clen if you just wanted to do something. I would research the heck out of clen and T3 first though, as clen seems to come with some nasty sides. Keto is good to help as a prevenative measure. Winny should be used in conjunction with test in my opinion. I like you have PCT planned. I think you could get away with it for 3 weeks, I just wouldnt advise it as I truely see a bad cycle for anything to write home about. You really wont see much for the risk you are involving. If there is anything else, ask away! Good Luck!

[Gioz]

unfortunately I can not do injections ... so no testosterone ... it seemed like the best cycle to lose fat and increase hardness

[t-dogg]

I wouldnt run that. Thats not a cycle.

[Gioz]

why??

[t-dogg]

why??

Where to begin.

1) Winny will shut you down. You need test to run with it.

2) no clen dose stated.

3) T3 should only be ran IF you are on gear. Without it you will lose fat and muscle.

4) No pct doses.

5) your 167lbs and want to lose more weight?

[austinite]

Well winny will retain muscle. That said, you should not run this without test. Don't even think about it.

You have a ton of research to do. In my opinion if you're not ready to inject you're not ready to cycle.

[Gioz]

What can I do to lose fat? I 5months from diet / cardio ... but nothing guys .. fat belly / hip nn goes away

[t-dogg]

What can I do to lose fat? I 5months from diet / cardio ... but nothing guys .. fat belly / hip nn goes away

something is more then likly wrong with your diet, lifting or cardio. Post your weekly workout routine. Cardio sessions. and daily diet.

[Gioz]

already was correct but nothing

[t-dogg]

already was correct but nothing

If it was spot on you would be leaner then you are. You have to be honest with yourself or your not gonna change.

[austinite]

already was correct but nothing

Who evaluated your diet?

[Gioz]

I do not remember ..... but why give advice on cycles to lose fat at all and I never?

[austinite]

I do not remember ..... but why give advice on cycles to lose fat at all and I never?

What?

[t-dogg]

I dont understand what you said at all.



To make this clear your diet isnt correct. You need set calories, protein, carbs, fats each day. You need to have a lifting program and have your cardio setup. If they are done RIGHT, you will lose fat or gain muscle. Unless you have medical issues.

[Gioz]

ok ... I would like to understand why not cycle to help you lose fat

[t-dogg]

To make this clear your diet isnt correct. You need set calories, protein, carbs, fats each day. You need to have a lifting program and have your cardio setup. If they are done RIGHT, you will lose fat or gain muscle. Unless you have medical issues.

This is why.

[Gioz]

ok but I can not make a good diet and cardio with weight training help to speed up fat loss?

[t-dogg]

I just said thats exactly what you need to do. Diet, lifting, cardio.

[Gioz]

ok but this cycle can not do it and get faster fat loss?

[t-dogg]

ok but this cycle can not do it and get faster fat loss?

Again what you posted isnt a cycle. I/we have said what needs to be done.

[Gioz]

because it is a cycle?

[JohnnyVegas]

This is going in circles. Here is the important thing: don't run Winstrol without Test.

[Gioz]

and trying to do?

[Times Roman]

What do you think of clen cycle \ win \ t3?

win 50mg x4week
2week on clen \ 2OFF
t3 80mcg 3week
Pct
nolvadex 3 \ 4week
t3 30mcg 2week





1.66 - 76kg\167.55lbs

well, i don't like winny - hurts my joints
I don't like clen - gives me the shakes
and i don't like oral only cycles.

so i guess I don't think too much of your cycle.

Sorry mate. You wanted an opinion. There it is....

[Gioz]

cycle that you propose?

[Gioz]

tren acetato + clen?

[Anxnymous]

Nooo dont run tren yet big dog, preferably you want a 15%bf to even recommend a cycle... But theres no changing your mind, if you want to do it your going to just dont do the cycle your doing, unless its a medical issue your going to have to do injections.. If your mind is set on winny, Test E w/ winny, winny without test will leave you awfully dissapointed. Good luck