Starting Test E tom, need advice

[lycanthrope]

28 Years old, years of training, first time pinning, got diet and routine down. i am just looking for any advice for minimal side effects, i am planning on taking either 8-10 weeks of the test e. I would like any advice as to when i should pct, and what else should i take (vitamins or otherwise) to help benefit me while taking the test, or help prevent or offset any side effects?

[lycanthrope]

also any advice, towards anything is appreciated, i weigh about 184 lbs right now and i am 5 foot 11. I would like to put on muscle but not be fat or bloated. any and all advice appreciated. I plan on running and swimming and biking, jump roping for cardio.

[red_hulk]

What's up dude, firstly I would say that a 8-10 week cycle is pretty short (usually the shortest I'll go is around 14). Also regarding pct if its just test e you start it two weeks after your last pin. You didn't mention what it is you'll be taking for pct so can't help you with doses or anything like that. You should also run an ai throughout your cycle.

Sides can be different for different people, but, generally, with just test the sides are minimal. Vitamins and aminos are always good to take throughout too!

[SportbikerKid]

Don't start the cycle until you have an ai!

[kmms]

i think the general consensus with test e would call for a 12 week cycle. you didn't mention what amount you intend to take but regardless, with test e 2 injections per week to split your weekly total should help keep sides to a minimum. pct starts 15 days after your last test e shot. sounds like you should spend a few minutes reading the stickies up top as well as the novice steroid cycle info or look for the beginners cycle thread from mickeyknox .

[BlueWaffle21]

RESEARCH.......RESEARCH......RESEARCH!!!!

First Cycle Protocol

Test E or C for 12 weeks at 500mg per week. The 500mg is split between 2 shots that are 3.5 days apart, so Monday morning and Thursday evening for example.

Please see this thread by jimmyinkedup for further explanation:
http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...59&postcount=5

For those of you that feel 500mg of Test may not be enough, here is an article by Swifto regarding growing into your dosages properly.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...into-your-dose!!

You want to run and AI from day 1 of your cycle to control estrogen levels. You can use Arimidex or Aromasin to do so.

Please see this thread by Swifto for more info:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n-cycle-Swifto

Proper PCT is needed to return your natural testosterone levels back to normal. This will involve the use of Clomid, which is up for debate with Atomini, Nolvadex, and Torem depending on which you decide on.

A recent post by Swifto explaining all your PCT option:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...Which-for-what

For more information regarding PCT start times:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94822

For more information regarding proper PCT:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...y-Steroid.com-)

HCG can be incorporated into your cycle and how to do so is debatable also. Most vets recommend 250 IU every 3.5 days starting in the second week up until the start of your PCT. Other people prefer to use HCG a part of their PCT as well, it’s basically up to you after researching the matter.

For more info please read Swifto’s HCG thread:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...mportant-is-it

Also, a write up on HCG by Sworder
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ide&highlight=

Now that you have done some research, come up with a cycle and the forum will be happy to critique it for you and provide and adjustments needed.

[jpowell]

nice solid info blue waffle!
lunk inspire you?

i agree, you dont start until you have everything on hand..
A.I. (adex)
PCT (clo&nolva)
3 vials (3o mg) test e
30 or more pins/syringes 1" 23g
diet/cardio in check.

keep doing your research! and dont pin today as planned.

[Capebuffalo]

Look out Lunk. Nice job bw.
OP please read suggested threadsa

[songdog]

I agree with the above.PLUS post your diet in the diet section with macros.Beacuse I will bet its not as good as you think.Most arent so dont take offence.But if you want MAX gains you will do this.Good luck.

[BlueWaffle21]

Thanks J and Cape!!

[Buster Brown]

^^^^^That is solid advice. Take sometime and dig into the research before you pin. Don't treat this like on the job training, you don't want to make mistakes you will regret.

[lycanthrope]

what AI should I get? and are there marketplaces that are legal for it, not asking for anyones source or anything just wondering if thats legal and if i could buy it online somewhere, also i was going to use either clomid or novadex for PCT.

[Live for the PUMP]

28 Years old, years of training, first time pinning, got diet and routine down. i am just looking for any advice for minimal side effects, i am planning on taking either 8-10 weeks of the test e. I would like any advice as to when i should pct, and what else should i take (vitamins or otherwise) to help benefit me while taking the test, or help prevent or offset any side effects?

Take lots of anti-oxidants. Vitamin C, multi, eat berries, etc. Also you should take an AI. Are you planning on taking one? Test E I would run 12 weeks for best results.

[Lunk1]

use both clomid and nolva!

[lycanthrope]

i already researched the AI, and bought one... Now on to the HCG whats a good on from AR-R that i can get???

[MuscleInk]

i already researched the AI, and bought one... Now on to the HCG whats a good on from AR-R that i can get???

HCG is HCG. What do you mean what is a good one?

[Lunk1]

cant gethcg from ARR...have to do some hunting for that!

[lycanthrope]

yea i just bought an AI on AR-R for the rats that i am testing it on

[lycanthrope]

now in regards to the HCG? can i obtain that legally too??

[lycanthrope]

oh i got that, ill have to ask around outside the box thanks!

[lycanthrope]

Alright thx for the advice, i havent started yet. Im waiting for the ai to get here, how often should i take that, i guess i will get more test and run 12 weeks, how much nolva and clomid should i start taking for pct after week 12? And i got 30ml of ai, do i neex more for my ai? As far as anti oxidants i just bought a ninja blender juicer, and 100% all natural whey so ill make my own healthy shakrs, along with a good diet.

[MuscleInk]

Alright thx for the advice, i havent started yet. Im waiting for the ai to get here, how often should i take that, i guess i will get more test and run 12 weeks, how much nolva and clomid should i start taking for pct after week 12? And i got 30ml of ai, do i neex more for my ai? As far as anti oxidants i just bought a ninja blender juicer, and 100% all natural whey so ill make my own healthy shakrs, along with a good diet.

Brother,

Please do some more reading. The answers you need are already here. You're planning on cycling and you don't know answers to some basic questions. I'm not trying to rattle your cage but come on, you are messing with hormones which can seriously screw you up and you haven't spent time learning the basics.

[lycanthrope]

Well i have been reading, but alot of the time some of the stuff i read coincides with advice from members, so i am utilzing both the reading and peoples first hand experience or advice. Im just wondering what you guys think, originally i was going to get eiher cllomid or nolva, someone here said both, so i will, i just wanted a little extra advice on how much you guys think i should get if im gonna run 12-13 weeks test, km gonna run an ai along with the test, ill stop the ai right as i start pct on either week 12 or 13 whichever week i stop pinning at. And i didnt start right aay like i was pla ing, ulkstened to advice here, im gonna wait till the ai geta here then start, pick up another bottle of test, some clomid and nolva. Also someone mentioned hcg, ive been doing various reading on that, and when i would start, ive read either week 2, middle of cycle, or???? Do you think i should run an hcg, or just lay off that for now, and if i do, when to start running it with the cycle and how much should i get

[lycanthrope]

Stupid posting from phones, i cant read half the stuff i type beyond line three

[lycanthrope]

also i have been doing some reading from Test E, that one possible side effect is male pattern baldness, now there is not history of that in my family(that I know of) but i see that Ar-R has some good shit on there, do you think i should scoop on a bottle of that as a precursor, or ???

[BR0DIE]

also i have been doing some reading from Test E, that one possible side effect is male pattern baldness, now there is not history of that in my family(that I know of) but i see that Ar-R has some good shit on there, do you think i should scoop on a bottle of that as a precursor, or ???

Do you have mpb currently? If you don't then it's very unlikely you'll have problems on cycle.