First cycle... thought from vets??

[rdre1979]

Hi all, wondering if I could get some thoughts on what I've decided for my first cycle. To start with I'm 33, 88kg (193lbs) 5'10 and 12% BF. Have been training hard for 5 years but decided to take it to the next level. Diet is squeeky clean (400g protein, 300 carb, 100g fats approx/day). This is what I'm going for...

Week 1, 20mg dbol ED
Week 2 to Week 5, 30mg dbol ED with 500mg test-e
Week 6 to Week 11, 500mg test-e
Week 12 - Week 13, Nothing
Week 14, 40mg Nolvadex ED
Week 15 - Week 16, 20mg Nolvadex ED

Thoughts would be much appreciated.... Cheers!!

[MuscleInk]

Heading off to bed but I'll throw some comments out. Others will chime in I'm sure.

First cycle - test-E or test-C only. Nothing else. No need for dbol.
Where's your AI? Tamox is a SERM and not an AI.
What about your PCT?
What about HCG?

I'd run your diet through our nutrition section. Macros look good but what foods are in there. Everyone says their diet is squeaky clean. Rarely it is. You could be an exception but if you're going to do this right, post your diet for review. There's no harm in doing so, right?

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

^^^^ couldn't have said it better

[rdre1979]

Cheers for that muscleink, will run the diet in the diet section for some thoughts on that, it is very clean though, I like to keep it strict. Is the tamox alone not enough for PCT??

[kronik420]

Cheers for that muscleink, will run the diet in the diet section for some thoughts on that, it is very clean though, I like to keep it strict. Is the tamox alone not enough for PCT??

add clomid and run PCT for 4 weeks, which starts 2 weeks after your last test e injection

clomid 100/50/50/50 (100mg ED for 1st week, then 50mg ED for the next 3 weeks)
nolva 40/20/20/20 (40mg ED for 1st week, then 20mg ED for the next 3 weeks)

also it will be a good idea to get some blood work done before you start.

good luck

[stpete]

Hi all, wondering if I could get some thoughts on what I've decided for my first cycle. To start with I'm 33, 88kg (193lbs) 5'10 and 12% BF. Have been training hard for 5 years but decided to take it to the next level. Diet is squeeky clean (400g protein, 300 carb, 100g fats approx/day). This is what I'm going for...

Week 1, 20mg dbol ED
Week 2 to Week 5, 30mg dbol ED with 500mg test-eShould just stick w/test for now, but if you decide not to start w/30mgs and stay w/it throughout.
Week 6 to Week 11, 500mg test-eInsufficient. You have to start at week 1.
Week 12 - Week 13, Nothing
Week 14, 40mg Nolvadex EDHave you considered running clomid also @ 50/50/25/25? It's better than nolva alone.
Week 15 - Week 16, 20mg Nolvadex ED

I don't see an AI or HCG in here. You need to add those as well.

Thoughts would be much appreciated.... Cheers!!

Bold

[rdre1979]

If I add an AI in there, would I add it to the cycle or just PCT? Thinking armidex or letro, and at what dose would everyone recommend? Thanks again everyone!

[MickeyKnox]

Aromasin 12.5mg EOD and monitor from there.

Please review this thread before you begin to make sure all your ducks are in order. Your proposed cycle in included in this thread.


Most Common Beginners Cycles

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

[Dr. Swolle]

Heading off to bed but I'll throw some comments out. Others will chime in I'm sure.

First cycle - test-E or test-C only. Nothing else. No need for dbol.
Where's your AI? Tamox is a SERM and not an AI.
What about your PCT?
What about HCG?

I'd run your diet through our nutrition section. Macros look good but what foods are in there. Everyone says their diet is squeaky clean. Rarely it is. You could be an exception but if you're going to do this right, post your diet for review. There's no harm in doing so, right?

All you need right there brother

[t-dogg]

I dont see a AI.

[rdre1979]

Hey guys, thanks very much for all your inputs, it's really good that you all take the time and look out for the rookies. I got the basis for my cycle from this actual website under steroid cycles, novice cycle 1. Sorry I can't paste the link as I'm not allowed but if anyone looks at it, do you think it's a bit misleading?? Cheers again everyone!

[MickeyKnox]

Hey guys, thanks very much for all your inputs, it's really good that you all take the time and look out for the rookies. I got the basis for my cycle from this actual website under steroid cycles, novice cycle 1. Sorry I can't paste the link as I'm not allowed but if anyone looks at it, do you think it's a bit misleading?? Cheers again everyone!

Its not misleading per se, it's simply out-dated in some areas.

The link/thread i provided contains the most up to date in formation on First Cycles.

[rdre1979]

Hey everyone, just thought I'd let you know this is the cycle I'm going for after all the inputs...

Week 1- 6: 30mg dbol + 400mg Test-e + .25 Arimidex eod
Week 7- 10: 400mg Test-e + .25 Arimidex eod

PCT
Nolvadex: 40/40/20/20
Clomid: 50/50/25/25

This is the best I'd could do with what is available to me. Any more thoughts would be great, and thanks again for all your help! Cheers!!

[kronik420]

Hey everyone, just thought I'd let you know this is the cycle I'm going for after all the inputs...

Week 1- 6: 30mg dbol + 400mg Test-e + .25 Arimidex eod
Week 7- 10: 400mg Test-e + .25 Arimidex eod

PCT
Nolvadex: 40/40/20/20
Clomid: 50/50/25/25

This is the best I'd could do with what is available to me. Any more thoughts would be great, and thanks again for all your help! Cheers!!

looks ok, you can add HCG if you can get your hands on it, if not then don't stress.

[MickeyKnox]

Hey everyone, just thought I'd let you know this is the cycle I'm going for after all the inputs...

Week 1- 6: 30mg dbol + 400mg Test-e + .25 Arimidex eod
Week 7- 10: 400mg Test-e + .25 Arimidex eod

PCT
Nolvadex: 40/40/20/20
Clomid: 50/50/25/25

This is the best I'd could do with what is available to me. Any more thoughts would be great, and thanks again for all your help! Cheers!!

Did you read the link i provided? It includes this cycle along with doing protocols for hCG.