10 days in to PCT reset and still hurting...any insight/experience greatly appreciate

[Anabolic4Health]

Hey Everyone,

Although I am a newbie to this forum i have been on AAS for years never doing more then 1 cycle in a year. I posted recently and received great feedback and was hoping to share the latest update.

10 days ago i started a PCT reset: clomid 100/100/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20

After my first PCT i felt like death was knocking on my door. I crashed bad. I had bloodwork done that showed my T was 26. My urologist (who knows i do cycle) put me on axiron for a month. I started feeling better but still not me. My blood work was done 4 weeks later and I had a lil over 300 for my T. Which is still low. My company changed medical and I have wait to early december to see a new urologist and endo to get blookwork done.

In all the years I never had such a crash before. I always responded very quickly. I always do the same cycle. test e and winny or t-bol. Same amounts. I have never felt this lethargic and so not even close to being 10% horny. (thank god for anonymity)

I was hoping to hear from someone that experienced a failed first PCT that went on to do a second PCT and the results. I know it is only 10 days but i feel the same. No improvements what so ever. Other then waking up in the morning with a stiffy, i do not get other erections and my GF (although very patient) is worried...

Any advice, food recommendations etc....greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

[AsEpSiS]

What was the cycle? How much test, how much t-bol? How long did you go for? Did you use hcg or an A.I. on cycle? How long has it been since your first PCT? Im no pro, but personally i noticed since I've been older, recovery seems a but slower. If its been a year since you've cycled, this could be a reason for the slower than normal recovery. I'd say give it awhile after pct, then go from there.

Someone more experienced will definantly chime in soon

Meanwhile, maybe try some ZMA, tribulis, maca, yohimbe, DAA, or a PDE5

[Anabolic4Health]

The cycle that I did consisted of test e 600 shot 3x a week 200each. And 50mg of winny v everyday. This was a 16 week cycle that ended August 31.

I started pct 2 weeks after for 4 weeks. I started axiron about mid oct.

10 days ago I started the pct reset as recommended by other members and my doctor gave me clomid and nolvadex again.

I did not take an AI since my estrogen was not high and I had no symptoms.

I did not take Hcg. I have never been able to get my hands on this and never took it with other cycles.

Thanks for the supplement recommendations. Is it safe or recommended to take all or do I pick 1?

Thanks!

[Anabolic4Health]

Btw. I am 34 and started cycles at 26 and 7x since I started. Never felt like this post cycle in my life and starting to worry. Gulp!

[toppinm]

300 is within range, it sounds like you're lower than that. Maybe it's time for hrt.

[gixxerboy1]

what was all your blood results besides the test levels

[AsEpSiS]

what was all your blood results besides the test levels

Excellent place to start! See OP......here comes some good advice!

[AsEpSiS]

I haven't used ALL of the supplements together yet, but i do plan on doing so next cycle. Did you happen to get blood work done BEFORE cycle so that you can determine what your "normal" lab values are?

Hang in there man..there are tons of very knowledgeable guys on here. Also, post this topic in the HRT forum....lots of good resources there too!

[Anabolic4Health]

Unfortunately my urologist is not too cooperative. I have asked for full bloodwork and he only had results for my T level.

I will be seeing a new doctor next month and will be certain to get full bloodwork and post back.

I will try to swing by my patents place before I leave Thursday for Florida to get my bloodwork from pre-cycle.

I know my body must be trying to fix itself. I wake up every morning with solid wood. It's just the rest of the day that scares me. Plus I feel like my testes never returned to normal size.

I will stick with the second pct and do all the reading I can Find on those supplements.

Thanks!

[gixxerboy1]

with out the full bloodwork its hard to say, but if your balls are still small look into hcg.

[Anabolic4Health]

In going to try to find some tomorrow. The more I read about hcg the more I think it could do the trick.

Not to be gross here and if this is not cool plz edit my post. My testes/sack is a lot smaller and tighter.

[gixxerboy1]

your fine. Just NO PICS

[Anabolic4Health]

your fine. Just NO PICS

Hahahahahaha. U posted that just in time. I was about to get my HD cam... ; )

[gixxerboy1]

Hahahahahaha. U posted that just in time. I was about to get my HD cam... ; )

with the magnifier lens?

[Anabolic4Health]

with the magnifier lens?

Hahahahahahahaha. Thx. I needed that.

[Anabolic4Health]

thank you to all that sent PM. I went ahead and placed an order for hcg and hopefully i will report back with good research results. Thanks again!

[Anabolic4Health]

So i received my hcg and I am back from Florida but i am holding off on taking the hcg. While in FL i started feeling much better finally. Perhaps it was the sun or maybe the clomi and nolva finally working their magic... I will give it a few days and if i regress, i will inject...

[Yahaer]

Hi mate good luck with hcg , yes clomid can make u feel like shit , did u use hcg on cycle ? , well overall i would advice u to be patient on urself ur body will recover by time , i had the same thing after my second cycle of ( 750 test e and deca 500 mg and dbol ) after this cycle 's my balls didnt return to its size nor my sex drive was as before but by time exactly after 4 month everything was back , but people have different reactions than others , my advice to u to be patient and keep checking with doctor just to be on safe side good luck mate

[Anabolic4Health]

No, i did not use HCG on cycle. at the time i did this cycle, i never heard of HCG. i always dealt with my personal trainer. I purchased this last cycle right before i moved from Boston to NY....i never did HCG before but i guess as i am aging my body is recovering slower from AAS. My old trainer also disconnected his phone # and closed his gym so i could never get a hold of him once i joined this site and started reading up....

having a limp dick scared the shit out of me. especially since my girl is HOT and wants ass daily = PANIC lol

will be going this month to a new endo and will get full bloodwork done...

Hi mate good luck with hcg , yes clomid can make u feel like shit , did u use hcg on cycle ? , well overall i would advice u to be patient on urself ur body will recover by time , i had the same thing after my second cycle of ( 750 test e and deca 500 mg and dbol ) after this cycle 's my balls didnt return to its size nor my sex drive was as before but by time exactly after 4 month everything was back , but people have different reactions than others , my advice to u to be patient and keep checking with doctor just to be on safe side good luck mate