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    Question about materon dosing

    So i came across some masteron propionate. (given to me by someone who owed me a couple of bucks) UGL and all it says on the label is 175mg. I'm assuming thats 175mg/ml. I'm currently in my 5th week of a test E cycle running it at 250mg 2x wk. And so i'm hoping to get some help with some questions.
    1.)How would i incorperate the mast into my cycle.
    2.)Can mast prop even be ran with test eth. (does it matter that the test is long ester and the mast is short ester?)
    3.) What is a standard dose for mast? (mg per injection & also frequency of injections)
    4.) can mast be loaded and shot together in the same syringe with test?
    Probably sounds like dumb newb questions to a lot of you guys, but, hey, i AM a newb. So i'm hoping some of you more experienced guys can help me out here. Appriciate any feedback, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes201
    So i came across some masteron propionate. (given to me by someone who owed me a couple of bucks) UGL and all it says on the label is 175mg. I'm assuming thats 175mg/ml. I'm currently in my 5th week of a test E cycle running it at 250mg 2x wk. And so i'm hoping to get some help with some questions.
    1.)How would i incorperate the mast into my cycle.
    2.)Can mast prop even be ran with test eth. (does it matter that the test is long ester and the mast is short ester?)
    3.) What is a standard dose for mast? (mg per injection & also frequency of injections)
    4.) can mast be loaded and shot together in the same syringe with test?
    Probably sounds like dumb newb questions to a lot of you guys, but, hey, i AM a newb. So i'm hoping some of you more experienced guys can help me out here. Appriciate any feedback, thanks
    From what iv read from guys, mast is best run at 600 mg / wk, if I were you thou I would save it for your next cycle. Is this your first cycle ?

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    It's generally dosed at larger amounts. And unless you have low BF, Mast is not likely for you.

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    Yes, this is my first cycle. Its only one bottle so thats why i was just gonna run it now. I was already thinking about running mast for my next cycle in the summer, but if i did do that, i was gonna go with mast eth so i could keep it on the same pin schedule with my test. since the one bottle i got for free was prop, thats the only reason i was thinking of just using it now. But either way, i would still need to learn the proper dosing protocal for both of them (eth & prop) and also if it can be loaded together in the syringe with test

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    It's generally dosed at larger amounts. And unless you have low BF, Mast is not likely for you.
    Well i started my cycle at 20%. And yes, i know thats higher then whats recommended to run a cycle, but i did get it down to 17% in 5 weeks i been on cycle. Also mast having a strong rep for being a shredder, i thought it would help me with my bf.....correct me if im wrong mickey

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    Mast and Prop can be run together.
    Speaking for myself, i wouldn't run it any lower than 400 or higher than 800. Currently at 600.
    Yes, it can be loaded in the same syringe.

    You shouldn't start your PCT till Test E is out of your system or at least I don't. That could take 3-4 weeks after last injection. Mast Prop has a shorter ester so you could still run it after stopping Test E.

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    Wes,

    When was the last time you had your PSA checked? I realize you're only 38 and your PSA should be low, but masteron can elevate PSA values and in some men can cause secondary BPH. Just be aware of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes201 View Post
    Well i started my cycle at 20%. And yes, i know thats higher then whats recommended to run a cycle, but i did get it down to 17% in 5 weeks i been on cycle. Also mast having a strong rep for being a shredder, i thought it would help me with my bf.....correct me if im wrong mickey
    I would wait until next cycle and focus on dropping your BF down to 15 or even less. The leaner you are, the more Mast shines. Actually, Mast is usually included for those prepping for a show. This should give you some idea of how this compound is utilized best.

    Edit: Just realized your running a long estered cycle. I definitely wouldn't use it on this cycle. And I wouldn't use Mast without Prop and maybe Var at the end, or Winny.
    Last edited by MickeyKnox; 12-03-2012 at 11:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes201 View Post
    So i came across some masteron propionate. (given to me by someone who owed me a couple of bucks) UGL and all it says on the label is 175mg. I'm assuming thats 175mg/ml. I'm currently in my 5th week of a test E cycle running it at 250mg 2x wk. And so i'm hoping to get some help with some questions.
    1.)How would i incorperate the mast into my cycle.
    You would simply add it in and run it till the end of your cycle but it doesn't sound like you really have enough to do anything.
    2.)Can mast prop even be ran with test eth. (does it matter that the test is long ester and the mast is short ester?)
    The type of test you're using doesn't matter, the type of ester that's attached to the test does not matter. You can use a combo of large and small ester base compounds in the same cycle/stack, this will not affect the potency or efficiency of any of the steroids in any way.
    3.) What is a standard dose for mast? (mg per injection & also frequency of injections)
    Every other day injections are best. Average dosing ranges can vary, 100mg/eod is pretty standard.
    4.) can mast be loaded and shot together in the same syringe with test?
    Pretty much all injectable steroids can be mixed in the same syringe. Whether you inject it mixed together in the same syringe or separately it's all going into your body and dispersing.
    Probably sounds like dumb newb questions to a lot of you guys, but, hey, i AM a newb. So i'm hoping some of you more experienced guys can help me out here. Appriciate any feedback, thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes201
    So i came across some masteron propionate. (given to me by someone who owed me a couple of bucks) UGL and all it says on the label is 175mg. I'm assuming thats 175mg/ml. I'm currently in my 5th week of a test E cycle running it at 250mg 2x wk. And so i'm hoping to get some help with some questions.
    1.)How would i incorperate the mast into my cycle.
    2.)Can mast prop even be ran with test eth. (does it matter that the test is long ester and the mast is short ester?)
    3.) What is a standard dose for mast? (mg per injection & also frequency of injections)
    4.) can mast be loaded and shot together in the same syringe with test?
    Probably sounds like dumb newb questions to a lot of you guys, but, hey, i AM a newb. So i'm hoping some of you more experienced guys can help me out here. Appriciate any feedback, thanks
    I would take a minimum of 400mg per week divided daily. I personally would want to run closer to 700mg a week tho. Big difference especially if bf is under 7%

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    Save the Mast for when you decide to try out tren...then take 1ml EOD (175mg). From everything I've read it would seem Mast and Tren have really good synergy.

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    I don't see mention of an AI, HCG or PCT. do you have all this lined up? You need to get that bf down to at least 15%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Wes,

    When was the last time you had your PSA checked? I realize you're only 38 and your PSA should be low, but masteron can elevate PSA values and in some men can cause secondary BPH. Just be aware of this.
    Well, to be honest, i dont know what psa is. Is this something i should be getting checked mid or post cycle?

    Mickey and metal jacket, thanks for the advice, definatly helps and always appriciated.

    St.pete, yes i do have all my ancillaries. Currently running adex .25 eod (bp just checked yestrday and everything ok)also have nolva and clomid on hand for pct...... Hcg just arrived yesterday and i will also be incorperating that on cycle for the remaining 7 weeks...Thanks for all the replies guys
    Last edited by Wes201; 12-04-2012 at 06:58 PM.

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    People tend to forget that mast, or any dht has a high binding affinity for shbg. A rise in shbg is going to slow your gains down towards the end of a cycle. I find that adding a low dose of mast at the tail end of a blast has helped keep the gains coming. Yes your not going to notice much increased hardness/vascularity if your higher bf but in my opinion it has a place in any bulking cycle. Now considering your a self proclaimed "newb" I would just save it for a future cycle. No need to complicate things just yet. You would have to pin at least eod, but I much prefer pinning mast ace Ed. Finish this cycle and save the mast for your next go around. It would be a lot simpler to just run it with prop anyways. Besides you may want it for beach season to make those panties moist ya know.

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    Never heard of masteron hindering gains

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick4588
    Never heard of masteron hindering gains
    It doesn't. Dht has a stronger binding affinity to shbg than test from what I remember. Therefore freeing up more testosterone. I have read a few different opinions on shbg and its effects on gains. In my personal opinion and experience masteron at the end of a cycle works wonders. Maybe someone can elaborate on this some more as im no scientist.

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    The post by alexISthrowed is right on time in my opinion. Keep it for later. Yes it will provide gains in smaller doses for the reasons stated. And I definately also prefer ED pinning ot EOD.

    I myself believe that the whole deal about it only providing the hardness and vascularity at sub 12 bf is a misnomer, as well as the idea that it has to be run at 700mg to work. Granted if you are 15%-16% and doing 300-400mg wk, you will not wind up with shoulders that are striated a vascular, however I feel you will see a substantial amount of dryness/hardness and increase in vascularity (compared to just test) it just will not be as dramatic because it won't show as much.

    Anyhow good luck with your cycle whatever you do and as pointed out if you do not have AI, HCG and PCT already order ASAP prefferably from AR-R so that you are sure its legit and will arrive quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexISthrowed View Post
    It doesn't. Dht has a stronger binding affinity to shbg than test from what I remember. Therefore freeing up more testosterone. I have read a few different opinions on shbg and its effects on gains. In my personal opinion and experience masteron at the end of a cycle works wonders. Maybe someone can elaborate on this some more as im no scientist.
    I could be wrong but I think that patrick may have been confused by your post, When I first read your post I thought you were saying Mast at the end of a cycle would hinder gains till I reread it.
    Last edited by Far from massive; 12-05-2012 at 02:56 PM.

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    That's what I read too. Going too fast! My b

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    I usually run masterone and/or provirone when my estrogen to test ratio is messed up and continue throughout the end of the cycle.That usually happens by the end of a cycle.

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