New to this!!! Need help!!!

[Ko56]

I started doing propanate a week ago and I've been doing one cc every 3 days, my first shot was in the glute and wasn't too bad, my second shot was in right leg and felt like a Charlie horse, but my third shot, it hurt about 3 hours after and started forming a lump under my skin, I massages for it about 10 minutes and that seemed to help, but the best day I woke up and the lump was a bit bigger, and somewhat red, I didn't think much of it and the lump went away. But after that it got pretty red, about the size of a medium size pancake, was swollen, and was hot. I put ice in a facecloth on it and it seems to help a bit, it's been 5 days now and the swelling is gone, it's not hot anymore, and the redness is still there a bit, and there seems to be a lump under my skin again, it's not very painful when press on it and its getting a bit better each day. Could this be an abscess? Should I go see a doctor? Any advice helps I'm totally new to this

[craig1414]

I'm sure somebody with more experience can help, but I would say if it's getting better then hold off for a little longer. Take an anti inflammatory, moniter it. If it gets any worse at all or the redness comes back, in my opinion go to a doctor. If it doesn't go away soon, get it checked out. Hasn't happened to me yet, I'm anxious to see what other people say.
What are your sterilization methods like?
Good luck

[Ko56]

Washed my hands before, had everything set out on a fresh paper towel, used a swab on my fingers, let it dry, used a swab in the top of the bottle, loaded gear, put cover back on needle carefully, swabbed injection area, injected slow, waited 15 seconds before pulling out after finished, and swabbed again after it was out

[craig1414]

Any difference yet? Sterilization looks good, I personally don't wait 15 seconds after more like 5. Massage area for a bit after injection. Seems to help.

[craig1414]

Also, do you switch needles before injection? You shouldn't use the same needle to pull gear from vial and inject. I use a 22 gauge to pull from vial, then once desired amount is in syringe I switch to a 25 gauge to inject. Make sure you are letting the alcohol dry on the top of vial as well without blowing on it.

[MickeyKnox]

I started doing propanate a week ago and I've been doing one cc every 3 days, my first shot was in the glute and wasn't too bad, my second shot was in right leg and felt like a Charlie horse, but my third shot, it hurt about 3 hours after and started forming a lump under my skin, I massages for it about 10 minutes and that seemed to help, but the best day I woke up and the lump was a bit bigger, and somewhat red, I didn't think much of it and the lump went away. But after that it got pretty red, about the size of a medium size pancake, was swollen, and was hot. I put ice in a facecloth on it and it seems to help a bit, it's been 5 days now and the swelling is gone, it's not hot anymore, and the redness is still there a bit, and there seems to be a lump under my skin again, it's not very painful when press on it and its getting a bit better each day. Could this be an abscess? Should I go see a doctor? Any advice helps I'm totally new to this

Its not an abscess if its not red and warm to the touch, and it appears to be getting better.

Curious what your current cycle is?

Lay it out completely including PCT, AI, and hCG if any. You may have other areas that need tweaking. Best to get solid advice now while you still in the infant stages of your cycle.

[Ko56]

I'm not sure what you mean by my current cycle, I'm just doing 1cc every 3 days but I skipped my last one as the injection site is not completly healed for my left leg

[Ko56]

No I don't I use 25 gauge to load and shoot with the same one, doesn't seem to be dulling the needle it enters pretty easy, is there other reasons why I should switch?

[Ko56]

Also I'm not sure why PCT, AI, and HCG are, sorry I am completly new to this so I'm like a sponge and will take all your advice

[Bio-Active]

How much gear are you running and for how long? What is your plan for PCT. Did you switch needles before you injected?

[songdog]

Bro just by the way this is going I am going to tell you to STOP! You dont have a clue on wat you are doing.Prop needs to be shot at least eod.You dont know wat a ai is nor a pct.I suggest you learn before you end up messing your body up.So read the stickys thats a good start.

[MuscleInk]

Also I'm not sure why PCT, AI, and HCG are, sorry I am completly new to this so I'm like a sponge and will take all your advice

Ko....exactly what SongDog said. If the questions and terms don't make sense, stop what you are doing immediately. Your hormones control sleep, mood, appetite, sex drive, memory, growth, immunity, and more. You are manipulating these functions through injections of steroids (hormones) with no idea how or what you are doing.

It's a very dangerous game you are playing.

[Wes201]

Ko....exactly what SongDog said. If the questions and terms don't make sense, stop what you are doing immediately. Your hormones control sleep, mood, appetite, sex drive, memory, growth, immunity, and more. You are manipulating these functions through injections of steroids (hormones) with no idea how or what you are doing.

It's a very dangerous game you are playing.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ x3 What muscle and songdog said.. YOU NEED TO STOP IMMEDIATELY!!!!! You are jeopardizing f***ing your self up for life....Research what PCT (Post cycle therapy) is as well as AI (Aromatase inhibitor), HCG, Serms, what they do, why we need them, proper dosing protocals for them, as well as proper dosing protocals for whatever gear you are running (test prop).....Type these terms in the search box and study all the info. Post up questions for whatever you dont understand.

[Bertuzzi]

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[Ko56]

Ok guys, stopping immediately.... My friend was coaching me and saying to just inject every 3 days but clearly there's a lot more than just doing that, going to read all the stickys and find out a lot more... I'm not going to keep going with my injections until I learn all the proper precautions. Sorry to have wasted anybody's time I'm clearly not cut out for this right now... Thanks a lot for the advice

[MuscleInk]

Ok guys, stopping immediately.... My friend was coaching me and saying to just inject every 3 days but clearly there's a lot more than just doing that, going to read all the stickys and find out a lot more... I'm not going to keep going with my injections until I learn all the proper precautions. Sorry to have wasted anybody's time I'm clearly not cut out for this right now... Thanks a lot for the advice

You aren't wasting any one's time by asking for advice. Most guys here advocate safe, responsible use and education is the best way to achieve it. You have nothing to apologize for. Everyone makes mistakes. What's more important is not that you made the mistake, but that you learned from it and avoid similar mistakes in the future. Friends mean well.......they're just not always as well informed as they could be.

We're here to help. All you have to do is ask and there are many great minds and sincere guys that will provide you with the direction you need to reach goals safely.

You are doing the right thing by asking an looking for the best way(s) to handle this and you'll be better off for it.

I'm glad you had the insight and humility to ask. That shows a great deal of maturity and willingness to learn on your part so hold your head up for knowing enough to ask for help!

[MickeyKnox]

I'm not sure what you mean by my current cycle, I'm just doing 1cc every 3 days but I skipped my last one as the injection site is not completly healed for my left leg

Also I'm not sure why PCT, AI, and HCG are, sorry I am completly new to this so I'm like a sponge and will take all your advice

I knew something wasn't right. I think im developing a 6th sense for this stuff.

Good for you for being mature enough to take all this sound advice seriously and make the right choice.

You have my respect Ko.

[Ko56]

I definitely feel embarrassed for thinking it could have been just as simple as that, I should have known better. At least I came to the right place when I new something didn't add up, I got some real good advice from you guys and I am very appreciative for all the help guys and won't be starting again anytime soon till I actually know what I'm doing

[bigsiv]

I definitely feel embarrassed for thinking it could have been just as simple as that, I should have known better. At least I came to the right place when I new something didn't add up, I got some real good advice from you guys and I am very appreciative for all the help guys and won't be starting again anytime soon till I actually know what I'm doing

Nice to hear maturity and advice been taken. Well done Ko you've made the right choice.

[binsser]

I never knew any if these on my first cycle and ut was sust 500mg and tren 700mg ****ed me right up goid choice to stop and learn by doing this ull grow twice as big with no sides ;-)