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    BW came back, need some guidence please

    Hey guys, i made a post on this in the pct thread but was also adviced to make a thread here as you guys may have more knowledge on how to straiten out my problem. In a nut shell my last injection from my cycle was on sept.1st i did a full pct protocol and waited a few more weeks to get blood work done and here it is.

    CHOLESTEROL 3.62 RANGE <4.61
    HDL CHOLESTEROL 1.12 RANGE 0.9 - 1.6
    TRIGLYERIDE 0.64 RANGE <2.31
    LDL CHOLESTEROL 2.2 RANGE 1.7 - 3
    CHOLESTEROL, TOTAL/HDL RATIO 3.2 RANGE <5.1
    THYROID STIMULATING HORMONE .91 RANGE .2 - 4
    FSH .4 RANGE 1.4 - 18.1
    LH .1 RANGE 1.5 - 9.3
    TESTOSTERONE TOTAL 2.9 RANGE 8 - 29
    HEMOGLOBIN 180 RANGE 130 - 170

    As you can see my protocol didnt cut it and im thinking i need to do a restart? I had some other things tested as well but they were all with in range the only thing not tested was estrogen unfortunately, i think it is in range hopefuly as i used ai's threw out my cycle. Do you guys think 2 weeks of hcg at 500iu a day and 10mg aromasin eod followed up with nolva and clomid for 4 weeks would suffice? Any help you guys can give me is greatly appritiated! Thank you in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrod04 View Post
    Hey guys, i made a post on this in the pct thread but was also adviced to make a thread here as you guys may have more knowledge on how to straiten out my problem. In a nut shell my last injection from my cycle was on sept.1st i did a full pct protocol and waited a few more weeks to get blood work done and here it is.

    CHOLESTEROL 3.62 RANGE <4.61
    HDL CHOLESTEROL 1.12 RANGE 0.9 - 1.6
    TRIGLYERIDE 0.64 RANGE <2.31
    LDL CHOLESTEROL 2.2 RANGE 1.7 - 3
    CHOLESTEROL, TOTAL/HDL RATIO 3.2 RANGE <5.1
    THYROID STIMULATING HORMONE .91 RANGE .2 - 4
    FSH .4 RANGE 1.4 - 18.1
    LH .1 RANGE 1.5 - 9.3
    TESTOSTERONE TOTAL 2.9 RANGE 8 - 29
    HEMOGLOBIN 180 RANGE 130 - 170

    As you can see my protocol didnt cut it and im thinking i need to do a restart? I had some other things tested as well but they were all with in range the only thing not tested was estrogen unfortunately, i think it is in range hopefuly as i used ai's threw out my cycle. Do you guys think 2 weeks of hcg at 500iu a day and 10mg aromasin eod followed up with nolva and clomid for 4 weeks would suffice? Any help you guys can give me is greatly appritiated! Thank you in advance!
    what kind of cycle did you run and what pct compounds did you run?

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    My cycle was:

    test e wk 1-14-600mg
    tren e wk 1-8-400mg
    anavar wk 1-8 50mg ed.

    i ran adex and liquidex also threw the cycle along with caber at .5mg 2 times per week. my pct was nolva 40/20/20/20 clomid 100/80/50/50/25. i did hcg last 2 weeks of cycle/ while esters were cleraing (my timing was bad on that) i did 800iu for 2 days then 500iu a day for 8 days. Im starting to think that my timing for my pct may have been early and thus making it les effective.

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    oh i did also have winny depot in there for 2 weeks towards the end at 50mg a day.

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    Yep, you didn't restart.

    I wouldn't got as high as 500 iu of HCG ever day as you increase the chance for increased E2...try 350 iu ED.

    I think this is fine but would like Kel and Vet to jump in as well: "10mg aromasin eod followed up with nolva and clomid for 4 weeks would suffice"?

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    Thank you gdevine, i would worry that 350 iu would not be enough to stimulate as my previous attempt failed. As for the chance of increasing e2 that is where i figured the aromasin could come in. Am i wrong in thinking that way?

    Can anyone else chime in with some helpful input please?

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    Bump

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    bump. Anymore advice?

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    wanted to just do a quick update for anyone who may be interested in the restart. i finished up my hcg at 350iu ed as per gd advice on monday, and have been running nolva 20mg ed and will do so for 4-5 weeks as well as clomid at 100/50/50/25/25. one thing i noticed is while using the hcg my testicles were hanging lower ( not sure on much size difference) except today they seemed to suck back up a bit but they have been aching very bad today (only while sitting down for some reason, standing and walking i didnt notice them at all).

    a couple questions. 1) is it possible that 14 days of hcg was not quite long enough?
    2) am i able to get blood work done in the middle of all this while taking serms and get an accurate reading or will it be skewed?

    thank you for and advice and help you may be able to offer in advance!

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