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Taking in to consideration my gyno issues (for those who know) what do you think about me running 750 sust and 400 eq weekly for 10 weeks with exemastine throughout cycle 12.5mg daily and pct of tore and nolva? Or anything else you might think a better option? I've never had sust before so might be a decent change!
On a slightly different note,,,,,,,,,I've been offline for a while and noticed swifto is no longer here! Can anyone elaborate?
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Just curious why you think Sustanon would make much of a difference. . . it all gets reduced down to Testosterone at the end of the day.
I'm no veteran, but if I had any fears of gyno, and if I knew I was prown to it, I'd keep Letrozole in the medicine cabinet.
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Used it done it bro. The letro I mean. I've always used 500-750 test e and 500 deca each week for twelve week cycles. The last 18 months or so has hit me hard with gyno and whilst no lactation I think it has a lot to do with the deca hence why I'm thinking of eq. As far as using sust goes,,,,,it's the combination of test blends that will act differently with me that makes me curious.
And swifto??????
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OP, if you are so curious about how your body will responds to different types of Tests, then you should run Test only cycles with every and each Test that is present in Sustanon 250. This is the only logically deduced conclusion one can arrive at by following what you are suggesting here.
At any rate, if you have done 12 week cycles in the past with 500-750mg test e and 500mg deca each week, I doubt you will enjoy your proposed cycle, especially considering EQ at 400mg is pretty useless especially when compared to 500mg of Deca...
If I were you, I would take care of gyno first, and I mean a gyno surgery here, and then run a cycle with very solid estrogen management protocol... I use pharm grade Aromasin when I cycle, regardless of compounds, even at 6mg ED, absolutely no e-related issues ever appear, FYI.
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^^^ OP???????? taking care of gyno is exactly what I've been doing. We aren't all blessed with getting zero sides! My aim is to reduce the effects of the gyno whilst on cycle and the effects of deca, whilst better than eq, has the more negative effect on me. I've had eq before and I know how less effective it is. Run test only cycles with all the compounds of sust to find out what works? Yeah, not really mate. It's great you can run pharma grade aromasin but I have to settle for research chem products,,,,,,cost!!!! All I'm asking here is if sust and eq is a worthwhile combo or not all things considered!!!!!
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Swifto has been banned recently.
Can't help you with your gyno but I know a good surgeon in the UK!
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Yeah just been finding out about swifto! Surgery not needed yet mate as I seem to have it under control at the minute. That isn't to say it won't worsen though so maybe you could pm me the surgeon just in case?Originally Posted by SteM
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OP means 'original poster' in discussion forums. The original poster is the person who started a discussion thread, and OP is used to refer back to that person as the responses grow.
Do you have a problem with it?
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No, but I do with your attitude dude.
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I think wires are being crossed here Robocop. I think TJ was just explaining what OP meant
Back to your question sustanon is plain and simple test nothing different except the blends of esters and the ratios. Personally I believe it should be injected eod to make full use of the prop ester and to reduce sides, which I'm guessing if you are struggling with gyno you will be interested in.
I don't have experience with eq so I won't comment
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Yeah, I'm a bit wound up at the minute, and I seem to be taking my frustrations out on those who don't deserve it. Apologies juicer.
I know that sust is test but some guys reckon they get much better gains than just using a single test compound at any one time. Eq is garbage compared to deca but it does have its uses. Some get great appetites whilst using it and less of the negative sides as with deca. The positives are that the negative sides with eq are a lot less than with deca.
Interesting that you say I'll get less of the gyno sides injecting eod. Can you.explain why this is so?
Thanks buddy
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Sorry I should have clarified that bit I meant less sides as in acne etc NOT GYNO. The test is gonna aromatise no mater if its sust or a single ester. My apologies. That's obviously why an Ai is a must on cycle.
I would try and get that sorted first before another cycle it is bound to get worst look up C-bino thread on gyno reversal great read
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Found that thread it's a good read:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...now-about-GYNO
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It will all come down to estrogen control regardless of the compounds you run. The larger the volume of AAS the larger the necessity to control estrogen. On cycle the only positive method to see if estrogen is being controlled is blood work.
Injecting more frequently has shown a lower conversion to estrogen but this is also on an individual basis.
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