I appreciate it fellas, feel at home already. Ill try the ace so I could run it for 5 weeks instead of just 3.5 n that would leave me with almost 7 weeks of sust so doesn't sound bad. Would anyone recommend hcg 2 weeks into the cycle and ending 1 week b4 last sust pin? 500 iu's twice a week? As for clomid n novladex I would start it 2 weeks after last pin..? Clomid 60/40/40/20.. Novladex 40/40/20/20? How does this sound bc I want to take full advantage of this bc never ran sus before