Test E + Dbol cycle check

[Atibbo]

Stats:
26 years old
Lifting for 3-4 years
13%ish bodyfat (Currently cutting fat)
6'
188lbs

Hey guys, here is what my cycle will look like:

Week 1-4 Dbols - 40/40/40/40 - Should I taper up or is this fine?
Week 1-12 Test E - 250mg twice a week - Is it possible to do all 500mg in one shot per week? Or best to do 2?
.5mg Arimidex ED ( I have a mild case of gyno) - Should I start taking this before my cycle to stabilize in my blood or is that not necessary?
Week 14-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid ?/?/?/?

(I have all this gear in front of me ready to rock n roll)

As always, thanks for any help and advice!

[Lunk1]

stats:
26 years old
lifting for 3-4 years
13%ish bodyfat (currently cutting fat)
6'
188lbs

hey guys, here is what my cycle will look like:

Week 1-4 dbols - 40/40/40/40 - should i taper up or is this fine? no need to taper up...40mg is fine
week 1-12 test e - 250mg twice a week - is it possible to do all 500mg in one shot per week? Or best to do 2? definitly do 2 injections a week
.5mg arimidex ed ( i have a mild case of gyno) - should i start taking this before my cycle to stabilize in my blood or is that not necessary? no need to start this early. Will .25 ed work for you??????
week 14-18 nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50

(i have all this gear in front of me ready to rock n roll)

as always, thanks for any help and advice!

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[Atibbo]

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Thank you sir! I can definitely try .25 and if I feel anything happening in the nip area I could always bump it to .5 right?

[Lunk1]

Thank you sir! I can definitely try .25 and if I feel anything happening in the nip area I could always bump it to .5 right?

Since you know your prone then .5 may be in your best interest... I was more asking than suggesting. Have you considering something stronger than Adex for an AI since you seem to be gyno prone??

[Atibbo]

Since you know your prone then .5 may be in your best interest... I was more asking than suggesting. Have you considering something stronger than Adex for an AI since you seem to be gyno prone??

Well, the first time I did a cycle I was 20%+ bodyfat so it might of been from all the fat. But, I do have letro on hand as well.

[Lunk1]

Well, the first time I did a cycle I was 20%+ bodyfat so it might of been from all the fat. But, I do have letro on hand as well.

Letro was exactly what I was thinking!

Is the gyno still present??

[Atibbo]

Letro was exactly what I was thinking!

Is the gyno still present??

Yes, I have a little lump.

[Lunk1]

Yes, I have a little lump.

Have you taken any measures to try to clear that up???

[Atibbo]

Have you taken any measures to try to clear that up???

Yeah, but it's been there for years so it ain't goin' anywhere without surgery unfortunately. I just want to make sure it doesn't worsen.

[Lunk1]

Yeah, but it's been there for years so it ain't goin' anywhere without surgery unfortunately. I just want to make sure it doesn't worsen.

I would definitly consider Aromasin or letro instead of Adex then...

[Atibbo]

I would definitly consider Aromasin or letro instead of Adex then...

How would I dose the letro?

[Lunk1]

How would I dose the letro?

.25mg EOD should be plenty. Letro is very powerful and can shut estro down entirely! Aromasin may be the better choice but it's entirely up to you.

[Atibbo]

.25mg EOD should be plenty. Letro is very powerful and can shut estro down entirely! Aromasin may be the better choice but it's entirely up to you.

I think I'll try .5mg Arimidex ED. If things get out of control I'll use letro as a last resort. I don't wanna be messing with that crazy shit!

I plan on getting surgery anyway at some point.

[Atibbo]

.25mg EOD should be plenty. Letro is very powerful and can shut estro down entirely! Aromasin may be the better choice but it's entirely up to you.

On second thought, it would be a lot safer to drop the dbol all together right? Dbol is whats really going to aggravate the hell out of my gyno.

[stpete]

Yes, that would help.

[Atibbo]

Yeah, skipping on the dbol. Just 12 weeks straight Test E!

Just did my first pin. I'll keep you guys updated!

Thanks again for the help.

[Lunk1]

Yeah, skipping on the dbol. Just 12 weeks straight Test E!

Just did my first pin. I'll keep you guys updated!

Thanks again for the help.

Atibbo...after a "discussion" last night I realize in looking back at this thread my Letro suggestion may be a bit high. I believe .25 E3D is actually a better dose!

On that Testcycle though I would run your noraml AI and keep the Letro on hand only...just in case

[Atibbo]

Hey guys just did my 5th pin yesterday and I've been taking dbols @ 40mg ED since sunday.
Nothing in the nipple area yet. Testicular atrophy is definitely present. Only shitty thing.. I got hit in the head with a grinder at my work yesterday and got 7 stitches in my forehead. So no gym for at least 5 days.

[rayman21]

i was thinking about stacking dbol with my test cyp too so please let me know how it goes

[Atibbo]

Not going that great.. I think the dbol is fake or under dosed. I've been taking it now for 11 days @ 40mg and for the last 2 days and today I've bumped it to 60mg and have no significant strength gains what so ever.

Could the arimidex be hindering the gains that much from the dbol?

I've been taking it at .5mg everyday for almost 3 weeks. My libido is still normal though.

[Lunk1]

If you havn't seen any gains from 2 weeks nearly of 40 mg I would have some definite concerns!

[Lunk1]

Not going that great.. I think the dbol is fake or under dosed. I've been taking it now for 11 days @ 40mg and for the last 2 days and today I've bumped it to 60mg and have no significant strength gains what so ever.

Could the arimidex be hindering the gains that much from the dbol?

I've been taking it at .5mg everyday for almost 3 weeks. My libido is still normal though.

>25 EOD is enough to start so yes .5 ED is rather high. I doubt your lack of gains are attributed to the higher Adex dose though!

[Atibbo]

If you havn't seen any gains from 2 weeks nearly of 40 mg I would have some definite concerns!

Yeah apparently the stuff is really under dosed you need like 80-100mg to see results. I'm getting some new stuff..

[rayman21]

yeah thats probably a good idea and i have no idea why youre taking arimidex at 0.5 ed thats too high IMO

[Atibbo]

yeah thats probably a good idea and i have no idea why youre taking arimidex at 0.5 ed thats too high IMO

Because I already have gyno.

[BR0DIE]

Keep this thread updated if you can bro. How many weeks have you done now? How are the gains coming along?

[Atibbo]

Keep this thread updated if you can bro. How many weeks have you done now? How are the gains coming along?

Did my 8th pin last night.

VERY minimal gains. I was using MediStar and they are bunk as hell.
I just switched to Newport so I'm hoping this will workout.

Been taking Newport DBols for 3 days now and my pin last night was Newport.

I'll add that I was taking 10x 20mg MediStar DBOLS a day!!! For nearly 2 weeks and saw basically no strength gains. BUNK as hell.

[BR0DIE]

Did my 8th pin last night.

VERY minimal gains. I was using MediStar and they are bunk as hell.
I just switched to Newport so I'm hoping this will workout.

Been taking Newport DBols for 3 days now and my pin last night was Newport.

So you are in roughly week 4 right? Just be patient, if your Dianabol is fake it isn't a great loss really. The enanthate ester won't produce gains until week 5 or 6 for some people, but you will be happy when it starts to work.

[Atibbo]

So you are in roughly week 4 right? Just be patient, if your Dianabol is fake it isn't a great loss really. The enanthate ester won't produce gains until week 5 or 6 for some people, but you will be happy when it starts to work.

Yup week 4. My worry is though, that the Test E was under dosed or fake too. So I'm basically starting a brand new cycle as of yesterday.

I hope not.

[BR0DIE]

Yup week 4. My worry is though, that the Test E was under dosed or fake too. So I'm basically starting a brand new cycle as of yesterday.

I hope not.

It shouldn't be under dosed or fake, I guarantee in a week or two you will experience great gains in size and strength.

However, if you don't experience anything come week 6-7 I would just stop and get some pharma grade juice for next time.

[JohnnyVegas]

It shouldn't be under dosed or fake, I guarantee in a week or two you will experience great gains in size and strength.

However, if you don't experience anything come week 6-7 I would just stop and get some pharma grade juice for next time.

Keep in mind that "pharma grade" isn't really a thing unless you literally get it from the pharmacy. Lots of counterfeits out there, so don't take anyone's word for it.

Also keep in mind that sticking yourself and waiting for results really messes with your head. Some guys say their lifts go up significantly the day after injecting a long ester (placebo effect) and some guys, like me, never feel a big boost no matter what the dose.

Make sure you are eating enough or you won't have the energy for heavy lifting or the protein for growth.

[BR0DIE]

Keep in mind that "pharma grade" isn't really a thing unless you literally get it from the pharmacy. Lots of counterfeits out there, so don't take anyone's word for it.

Also keep in mind that sticking yourself and waiting for results really messes with your head. Some guys say their lifts go up significantly the day after injecting a long ester (placebo effect) and some guys, like me, never feel a big boost no matter what the dose.

Make sure you are eating enough or you won't have the energy for heavy lifting or the protein for growth.

I thought pharma test was hard to fake because of the fact it comes in amps? I would have though it would be a lot of effort to fake amps for such a little reward.

I've got Abuhraihan enanthate that looks legit but you've made me think again.

[Atibbo]

I was hoping to add winstrol or anavar orals in towards the end of my cycle for some fat loss, what do you guys think about that? Good or bad idea

Edit: I'm definitely eating enough. You could full up the back of a pick up truck with the amount of sweet potatoes I eat in a week.

[BR0DIE]

I was hoping to add winstrol or anavar orals in towards the end of my cycle for some fat loss, what do you guys think about that? Good or bad idea

I wouldn't bother, neither will do much in terms of fat loss anyway unless you are cutting in a calorie deficit.

[Atibbo]

I wouldn't bother, neither will do much in terms of fat loss anyway unless you are cutting in a calorie deficit.

K Thank you. I will save that for another cycle.

Just got back from a leg workout and had a personal best squat @ 355lbs

Dunno if it's placebo or dbols but I felt good.

[Atibbo]

Just hit 200lbs this morning. Stronger and stronger everyday. Finally, some legit stuff.
Haven't felt anything weird going on in the nipples either. Glad this Arimidex is working.

Going to blast chest tonight, super pumped!

[human project]

Stats:
26 years old
Lifting for 3-4 years
13%ish bodyfat (Currently cutting fat)
6'
188lbs

Hey guys, here is what my cycle will look like:

Week 1-4 Dbols - 40/40/40/40 - Should I taper up or is this fine?
Week 1-12 Test E - 250mg twice a week - Is it possible to do all 500mg in one shot per week? Or best to do 2?
.5mg Arimidex ED ( I have a mild case of gyno) - Should I start taking this before my cycle to stabilize in my blood or is that not necessary?
Week 14-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid ?/?/?/?

(I have all this gear in front of me ready to rock n roll)

As always, thanks for any help and advice!

D Bol dosing is fine... I would start the d b week 4 or 5. You will be fine with pinning once a week.

[human project]

Stats:
26 years old
Lifting for 3-4 years
13%ish bodyfat (Currently cutting fat)
6'
188lbs

Hey guys, here is what my cycle will look like:

Week 1-4 Dbols - 40/40/40/40 - Should I taper up or is this fine?
Week 1-12 Test E - 250mg twice a week - Is it possible to do all 500mg in one shot per week? Or best to do 2?
.5mg Arimidex ED ( I have a mild case of gyno) - Should I start taking this before my cycle to stabilize in my blood or is that not necessary?
Week 14-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid ?/?/?/?

(I have all this gear in front of me ready to rock n roll)

As always, thanks for any help and advice!

Always start as low as possible with you AI... You can always increase dose. .25 every other day should even be fine"

[Atibbo]

When should I start seeing muscle gains? Right now all I'm getting is strength and water weight.

[JohnnyVegas]

I thought pharma test was hard to fake because of the fact it comes in amps? I would have though it would be a lot of effort to fake amps for such a little reward.

I've got Abuhraihan enanthate that looks legit but you've made me think again.

Depends on where you are. Multi-use vials are the most popular in the US. If you are outside the US then you might be right.