Hypothetical situation....

[Perseverance1]

Alright, so I've been researching all types of AAS and peptides recently and it got me wondering.....just how much could an average joe with decent genetics gain off of a high dose 15 week tren cycle?

Let's say the guy used to lift and was alright sized (say 6' 200 @ 13% bf) but stopped everything for a full year....then came back at it with a perfect diet, personal trainer, and...let's say 800mg of tren with 250mg of test a week. If he was 180 @ 13% at the start....where could he expect to be at the finish?

Basically I'm trying to figure out just how powerful you think tren is....I always here people talk about how it's a super drug....but I rarely if ever see any detailed logs showing me what kind of results it can bring under optimal circumstances.

Any of you long time vets care to give input?

[Times Roman]

here's how I look at it

AAS improves strength and recovery
Diet adds weight

there is no weight gain if you are not eating right
there are no sustainable gains if you do not eat right post cycle.

rule of thumb is to eat TDEE + 500 cals/day, or...
LBM x 15 + 500 cals/day

the more cals/day above 500, the dirtier your bulk. of course, some of your dirty bulk will always be LBM

other than that, I'm not very good answering hypotheticals like yours....
....everyone is diffferent

Hope this helps
---Roman

[ChiveOn]

Check the tren sticky by Atomini. I believe he specifies that tren is 5x stronger than test

[redz]

Tren is serious business and I'd imagine getting strong very quickly would put you at a high risk of injury after being out of the gym for a year.

[Bio-Active]

Nobody can answer this as everyone is different but if everything is spot on your gains will be good.