How to keep HCG good through 12 week cycle?

[lifeofdefiance]

I was planning on running 250iu 2x per week so I bough 10,000 iu of HCG but now I'm reading HCG only lasts for one month after being mixed with BAC water. Is there any way to make it last longer or am I gonna need to buy more?

[kelkel]

You'll be fine for around 90 days. Keep it refrigerated. It does not go bad after a month that's just bro-science. It will only lose potency. It doesn't suddenly turn bad.

[lifeofdefiance]

You'll be fine for around 90 days. Keep it refrigerated. It does not go bad after a month that's just bro-science. It will only lose potency. It doesn't suddenly turn bad.

Thanks a lot good to know

[largerthannormal]

in the future get 2 5000iu so you can reconstitute when needed. The BAC water is still only recommended for 28 days or so. personally I push that number and never had problems.

[lifeofdefiance]

As long as I have this thread made, I might as well address another concern. I've read lots of mixed opinions on whether to run HCG throughout a cycle or run a blast phase at the end. Since I will be running it throughout my cycle I'm guessing I won't really need a blast phase at the end, but I will have extra, so what are your guys thoughts on that? Should I just stick to 250iu 2x per week through the cycle and toss the rest or run a short blast phase at the end of my cycle?

[kelkel]

I'd stick to the original plan to keep your boys somewhat functioning this making restarting easier. Three times per week is fine as well...

Further cycle questions should really be in the AAS Q & A.

kel

[iSwanson]

Like Largerthannormal said get 2x 5000iu from now on. It's best to use the HCG within 30-45 days, so you could use 1 vial for the 1st half the other for the 2nd half. Try to keep the stopper as clean as possible if your going to be using it for an entire cycle. The ingredient in the Bac H20/NaCl prevents the growth of bacteria, after 30-45 days it becomes easier for bacteria to reproduce in the solution. Be extra clean when using your HCG since you're pushing it's limits.

As long as you use precaution you should have no issues.

[ChiveOn]

You should be fine man. Keep it refrigerated and just be sure to take ever sterile precaution as Swanson listed that bacteria growth could begin occurring dyer that 1.5 month mark or so. I pushed mine 10wks and was 100% fine. Of just buy 2x 5000 in the future

[Far from massive]

I am not sure I am following the replies here.

I agree that you should use the 5000 IU bottles, however in my book at 250IU's twice per wk that works out to 10wks which makes one bottle it fine for most cycles. I have had no problems with potency up to 60 days as long as the vial is a small one, and its keep nice and cold.

However its been my experience that if you use a 10ml gear vial then it looses potency a lot quicker due to the increased air space.

As far as sterility issues, I have to disagree with this being much of a problem. Although most doctors/phamacists put a 30 day cap on use of AAS after first pierce of the septum, this is due to contamination through the septum of the gear. If we look at the difference in the size of the needles used in AAS usage compared to HCG usage and also the amount of headspace of a typical 10ml gear vial (this is where the CFU's (Colony Forming Units) primarily form) compared to a tiny HCG vial it becomes obvious as long as one clean the septum and only uses clean needles then the likelyhood of any contamination will be greatly reduced compared to AAS. Also most only look at the first section of USP 51 studies on 2% BA, which show 100% effectivness in the suppression of CFU's in the first 30 days. I feel this is where the feeling about 30 days comes into effect, however if you read further you will see that extrapolation of data to 6/12/ and 24 months show little increase of risk of growth as long as new colonies are not introduced.

Anyhow long story short, as long as you use small vials and small needles and an alcohol pad, other than a slight loss of potency after 45-60 days you should have no problems keeping the HCG through a typical cycle.

[MickeyKnox]

Freeze it.

Freezing hCG

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n#.UJKMCGfX_fs

[ChiveOn]

Good call. Not sure why I didn't do the math on that one myself, at 250iu 2x/wk one 5,000 is all you need.

[senorrebo]

^^^ What Mickey said. I started doing that on a suggestion he made and it's incredibly simple like that.

[thai007goy]

Very good hcg info guys. Much need.

[Far from massive]

Freezing it for a long period and rethawing a few times may be fine, however I really doubt that freezing and rethawing daily or even weekly would be a good idea. Unless you want to believe that HCG is somehow different than almost any other compound known to man that requires refridgeration/freezing to store.

That said unless I had accidently bought a 10000 IU bottle I would not freeze it I would simply refridgerate it as this is a known good storage method.

[MickeyKnox]

I use 250iu 2/wk.

I freeze half of my reconstituted 5000iu hCG in slin pins and then place them in a sealed tupperware container - then into the freezer.

5 wks later i have fresh hCG at my disposal for the remainder of my 10 wk cycle (or shorter or longer which ever i choose)

[< <Samson> >]

This is a tad off base, I suppose. But, is there a way to detect contamination? Since, I have vials of juice sitting around after only being used half way.

As far as the HCG goes, I guess it's the same question. Since, I only use a portion of BAC water and the rest just sits until I use it.

[Buster Brown]

Freezing works great. Thaws really quick as well. Thanks Mickey!

[ali.jones]

What about when it's in powder form? I mean not mixed with BAC, how long it can stay good?

[Provita]

I use 250iu 2/wk.

I freeze half of my reconstituted 5000iu hCG in slin pins and then place them in a sealed tupperware container - then into the freezer.

5 wks later i have fresh hCG at my disposal for the remainder of my 10 wk cycle (or shorter or longer which ever i choose)

I do not know if this is an old debate or not, but is 250iu HCG x 2 per week sufficient enough to do the job? Some say 2x per week other 3x?

[Provita]

What about when it's in powder form? I mean not mixed with BAC, how long it can stay good?

I would say just check the EXP date on the packaging...

[ali.jones]

I would say just check the EXP date on the packaging...

Does powder need to be refrigerated ?


Sorry don't wanna hijack the thread but I think my question is related

[Provita]

Does powder need to be refrigerated ?


Sorry don't wanna hijack the thread but I think my question is related

Nope, just kept at room temp as far as my knowledge goes.

[MickeyKnox]

I do not know if this is an old debate or not, but is 250iu HCG x 2 per week sufficient enough to do the job? Some say 2x per week other 3x?

Widely accepted starting protocol is 250x2/wk. But through trial and error you may find that you may need to increase this. Best thing to do is try it at 250x2 and determine for yourself if this works for you.

Does powder need to be refrigerated ?


Sorry don't wanna hijack the thread but I think my question is related

Cool dry place and it will last a very long time.

[ali.jones]

Nope, just kept at room temp as far as my knowledge goes.

Cool dry place and it will last a very long time.

Thanks

[lifeofdefiance]

Freeze it.

Freezing hCG

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n#.UJKMCGfX_fs

thanks for the advice. Will do this.