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    New cycle input required/appreciated

    Hi Im AJ I'm 25 been lifting for about 5 years now first on and off for about a year but now seriously for about 4.
    Stats:
    Weight 16stone
    Bodyfat I think about 18-20% (Bulking)
    So far my max bench has gone to 120kg, squat to 120 kg and deadlift 130/140, dips with a 10kg plate, military press at 70/80kg, pull ups max of 8 in one set but other sets are lower afterwards. These are working rep ranges not 1rm

    Have done a dbol only cycle I know this is controversial and often sparks debate. However I have found strength and size gains to be rather good and also very motivating.

    Now looking to start a test 400 cycle 1 ml (half a ml mon and thurs) a week for 10 weeks with Anavar for the last 4 weeks. Have Nolva and HCG for PCT. Femera for any signs of Gyno that present themselves and Liv52 for liver purification during the Var cycle.

    What do you think? I'm already sorted with the bits and bobs so just looking for feedback more than anything

    Diet is

    Porridge with protein am (roughly 50g oats and a scoop of protein)
    Almonds and cashews as snack
    A few of my daily meals are always the same chicken with wholewheat pasta and tinned tomatoes as a plain sauce and plenty of mixed veg.
    Snacks are usually fruit or nuts.
    Post workout shake is made with water and 30g of protein with some kind of sugars (normally a few teaspoons of standard sugar for glycogen replenishment)
    Evening meal would be 4 odd eggs and veg or something similar to lunch just less on the carbs and finally a casein shake made with milk just before bed with Omega capsules.

    Supplements are just whey for shakes, omega 3,6 and 9 caps, a multivitamin and glucosamine as I cycle to and from work each day as well as the lifting.

    Thanks guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker118
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    Are you kidding!?! Go read the other thread you started.

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    You need to get your bf down bro! Age?

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    Hey MuscleInk I moved it over to this part of the forum as advised!
    Is bf a major issue as I'm loking to bulk first then cut after?
    Age is 25.

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    A few quick observatons:

    -Your pct is lacking
    -Hcg is better suited during cycle, not after
    -You need to run an AI throughout. Your estrogen levels can be dangerously high and still show no physical signs.

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    You want to bulk at 20% bf and not run an ai?

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    Cycling at a high body fat can up your risk of running sides associated with estrogen. It's generally looked upon that you want to at least be around 15% body fat to start cycling. Especially if you're gonna bulk.
    No matter what I would suggest adding in an AI. And running HCG the whole way though. Unless you enjoy small nuts

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    Thanks for the input! I like to think im a bit lower on the bf% but thats an at max figure! Got 4 of the 6pack back anyway!
    Would aromasin be ok then and run it alongside the HCG then.
    Anything for PCT recommended?

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    If I run a test only cycle of test 400 then forget the Anavar! What should I get for AI during cycle and what PCT is recommended?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker118
    Hey MuscleInk I moved it over to this part of the forum as advised!
    Is bf a major issue as I'm loking to bulk first then cut after?
    Age is 25.
    Sorry for the delay.....yep, good move to push the Q&A over here.

    For an AI, aromasin would be a better choice, then Anastrozole would be secondary if you can't get aromasin (exemestane).

    PCT - you mentioned you had nolva. That's a start. Adding clomiphene would be advisable. Have you worked the doses out?

    20% bf isn't ideal..... but opinions vary. Some guys cycle at 20% or higher but the adverse events (risks) increase with higher bf and higher bf is associated with elevated estrogen so this would be a further concern. Lowering your bf closer to 15% would be favorable.

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