Wife contemplating Anavar. Advice Please

[warmouth]

Hey guys (and gals hopefully). My wife is very concerned with an type of AAS. She is curious to anavar, since it is "kind" to women. Ive read the logs, and I know quite a bit about the compound myself, but when it comes to women and AAS, Im as ignorant as they come.

Now please keep this in mind, she is very cautious about this as she is like most of us were with the media hype and bad press about AAS. So what she is asking me about, and I dont know a definite answer to give, I need to ask you guys.

1. What are possible side effects?
2. Are they safe?
3. Can she use 10mgs for 4 weeks as a "tryout" mini cycle?
4. What will it do and what does she need to do concerning her birth control?

Her background:

28 years old
Training experience 10 years, very steady and with weights the last 4.
5'6"
Weight 148-150lbs
Goals are not to lose weight, but add more muscle and lose BF. She is fine being at her current weight, but of course like all of us, wants to be leaner with more muscle definition.
BF 25%

[ElectraMaddox]

Hey guys (and gals hopefully). My wife is very concerned with an type of AAS. She is curious to anavar, since it is "kind" to women. Ive read the logs, and I know quite a bit about the compound myself, but when it comes to women and AAS, Im as ignorant as they come.

Now please keep this in mind, she is very cautious about this as she is like most of us were with the media hype and bad press about AAS. So what she is asking me about, and I dont know a definite answer to give, I need to ask you guys.

1. What are possible side effects?
2. Are they safe?
3. Can she use 10mgs for 4 weeks as a "tryout" mini cycle?
4. What will it do and what does she need to do concerning her birth control?

Her background:

28 years old
Training experience 10 years, very steady and with weights the last 4.
5'6"
Weight 148-150lbs
Goals are not to lose weight, but add more muscle and lose BF. She is fine being at her current weight, but of course like all of us, wants to be leaner with more muscle definition.
BF 25%

Sides loss of app, oily skin, libidio increase, no DOMs, hair grows faster, so do your nails lol, spotting
Safe is relative, anything is safe if you are well informed and you're not abusing the aas
If I were her I'd do my first week at 5mgs week two thru five 10mgs and week six go back down to 5mg
If she's worried about her period coming back, get clomid... It makes you ovulate and she'll get her period or just wait it out until it comes back

Bc and aas have no direct correlation... What I do know from talking to my Gyno... Bc at certain levels will in fact inhibit muscle growth and make it harder to do so... I got off bc six weeks before starting my first cycle. I have no regrets what so ever... Estrogen deposits are harder to lose on bc

Her body comp will change for the better... Go for it.... You'll be happy you did just research first so you know the pros and cons and see how you feel about it.

[Lunk1]

Sides loss of app, oily skin, libidio increase, no DOMs, hair grows faster, so do your nails lol, spotting
Safe is relative, anything is safe if you are well informed and you're not abusing the aas
If I were her I'd do my first week at 5mgs week two thru five 10mgs and week six go back down to 5mg
If she's worried about her period coming back, get clomid... It makes you ovulate and she'll get her period or just wait it out until it comes back

Bc and aas have no direct correlation... What I do know from talking to my Gyno... Bc at certain levels will in fact inhibit muscle growth and make it harder to do so... I got off bc six weeks before starting my first cycle. I have no regrets what so ever... Estrogen deposits are harder to lose on bc

Her body comp will change for the better... Go for it.... You'll be happy you did just research first so you know the pros and cons and see how you feel about it.

You really think 5 and 10mg is enough? My wife plans her first Var run in a few weeks and the plan was 25mg to start...am I missing something?

[warmouth]

Really!!! She is strict about her BC, so Im sure she would opt to stay on. Is it safe to be on BC and anavar? And will 5 mgs do much for body composition? Thank you very much EM! She was really thinking about just going for 4 weeks due to her lack of knowledge in what it could do long term. I know it is perfectly safe if not abused, but she just isnt well informed on any of this. Can this be done for a 4 week period? I have 300mgs left over, so I thought she could give that a shot. I told her if she got freaked out or had side effects, she could just drop it and it would clear out in a day.

[warmouth]

Also, she is on ArmourThyroid. Will the anavar have any negative effects to this? She is prescribed the Armour, so it isnt for fat loss or the likes. She just now told me that she was more concerned with that than anything else.

*EDIT- Winstrol would be another option. Since I only have 300mgs of anavar, Iam able to get plenty of winstrol. I am just uncertain of the dose with that. Maybe 25mgs EOD? And would it be fine to use the anavar for 4 weeks, then finish the last 2 with winstrol, as long as she is taking NAC? Just an idea. Thanks guys!

[ElectraMaddox]

You really think 5 and 10mg is enough? My wife plans her first Var run in a few weeks and the plan was 25mg to start...am I missing something?

I ran 12.5 mg for six weeks with pretty dramatic results. She's good to go im sure she's not looking for a lot of muscle mass

[austinite]

1. What are possible side effects? Agree with ElectraMaddox, I'll add quad pumps to that, so my ex says...
2. Are they safe? Yes, at low doses.
3. Can she use 10mgs for 4 weeks as a "tryout" mini cycle? I would run it at 5mg for the 1st time.
4. What will it do and what does she need to do concerning her birth control? No idea!

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[ElectraMaddox]

Also, she is on ArmourThyroid. Will the anavar have any negative effects to this? She is prescribed the Armour, so it isnt for fat loss or the likes. She just now told me that she was more concerned with that than anything else.

*EDIT- Winstrol would be another option. Since I only have 300mgs of anavar, Iam able to get plenty of winstrol. I am just uncertain of the dose with that. Maybe 25mgs EOD? And would it be fine to use the anavar for 4 weeks, then finish the last 2 with winstrol, as long as she is taking NAC? Just an idea. Thanks guys!

No run var for six weeks at least and I have done winny yet but from everyone I know it gives you joint pain... There's a reason var is more expensive it's better... Just go online and buy it. I bought var in bulk... It's cheaper online than from a local dude.

Thyroid medicine can be ran with var, when people do t3 they are usually recommended to run an aas with it...

[ElectraMaddox]

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I didn't get quad pumps but I lifted ridiculous weights with my legs... I racked machines left and right
I got bicep pumps like no other... That was painful when I would lift, my hands went numb from time to time but it goes away after you lift

[songdog]

Now I dont want to hear you cryin if she ends up with bigger traps than you

[warmouth]

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Thanks alot man! So you think 5mgs is good as well? Even if ran at 5mgs for 6 weeks? Definitely have enough for that if so!

[austinite]

Thanks alot man! So you think 5mgs is good as well? Even if ran at 5mgs for 6 weeks? Definitely have enough for that if so!

Absolutely. Don't you wish we could run those doses?

[warmouth]

Now I dont want to hear you cryin if she ends up with bigger traps than you

DUDE! That made me laugh so freaking hard.......OUT LOUD! My wife is laughing at it too. She gets to hear my whinning first hand, lol.

[warmouth]

Awesome! Thanks guys. So I guess she might just run 5mgs for 6 weeks then. I know that is low as heck, but I know nothing about women and AAS. I thought about the winstrol at 25mgs EOD first just because it is so much easier for me to obtain, but this is certinly good news.

Just for future reference, what is the ideal starting dose for a woman using winstrol?

[ElectraMaddox]

Thanks alot man! So you think 5mgs is good as well? Even if ran at 5mgs for 6 weeks? Definitely have enough for that if so!

Yeah she'll she a difference with a little muscle growth which is probably what she wants... It's her first cycle... Stay low and if mid way she wants to bump up then pump up...

[ElectraMaddox]

Awesome! Thanks guys. So I guess she might just run 5mgs for 6 weeks then. I know that is low as heck, but I know nothing about women and AAS. I thought about the winstrol at 25mgs EOD first just because it is so much easier for me to obtain, but this is certinly good news.

Just for future reference, what is the ideal starting dose for a woman using winstrol?

Same doses as var when using it orally...
Injectable is depends I have to double check... I noticed with injectables I can tolerate higher dosages where as with orals small dosages effect me

[warmouth]

Yeah she'll she a difference with a little muscle growth which is probably what she wants... It's her first cycle... Stay low and if mid way she wants to bump up then pump up...

Thank you very much!

[ElectraMaddox]

No problem... I take so much stuff and I still look like a girl and sound like one too shell be alright

[songdog]

Awesome! Thanks guys. So I guess she might just run 5mgs for 6 weeks then. I know that is low as heck, but I know nothing about women and AAS. I thought about the winstrol at 25mgs EOD first just because it is so much easier for me to obtain, but this is certinly good news.

Just for future reference, what is the ideal starting dose for a woman using winstrol?

Yeah we got some women here that can help out

[ElectraMaddox]

Yeah we got some women here that can help out

Considering majority of us are on cycle now lol

[Lunk1]

Considering majority of us are on cycle now lol

They do say women tend to cycle together

[ElectraMaddox]

They do say women tend to cycle together

Good one

[songdog]

Considering majority of us are on cycle now lol

And all of you are lookin real good!

[Metalject]

Virilization symptoms are the primary concern for most women when it comes to steroid use. The reason many prefer Anavar is it tends to be the friendliest in this regard. However, that doesn't mean such symptoms can't happen. Most women can tolerate 10mg/ed pretty well. 6wks of use is normally a good run. There's nothing wrong with starting with a lower dose but 10mg will generally produce solid results with minimal negative impacts. There are some who will experience virilization symptoms even at this dose, it's impossible to predict. If they occur and you discontinue use at the onset of the symptoms they should clear in a short period of time. A day? I doubt it, but it shouldn't take long. It's when you ignore the symptoms and continue using AAS that they can become permanent and irreversible.

Some may say 10mg is too low, but if it's actual Anavar and accurately dosed most women should notice solid results. Some can tolerate more, but there's no reason to start with more and often 10mg is as much as many women ever want. In the end it is goal dependent but every time you increase the dose this does increase the risk of virilization. Doses of 20mg+ tend to greatly increase the odds.

Birth control, I can't see the Anavar negatively affecting her birth control, but like ElectraMaddox said I can see it hindering her results. How much I'm not sure.

Winstrol, some women can use it fairly well. 5mg/ed is a solid dose. However, this steroid tends to cause problems more commonly in some women than Anavar. I wouldn't say the majority if they're keeping the dose low, but more commonly than Anavar. She would probably be best served sticking with Anavar for her first run. Primobolan Depot is also a good choice...the combo stack of Anavar and Primo tends to do pretty well, but I'd save something like that for later on down the road.

All that said, in my opinion one of the best stacks on earth for just about any female is Anavar, HGH and T3.

[warmouth]

Virilization symptoms are the primary concern for most women when it comes to steroid use. The reason many prefer Anavar is it tends to be the friendliest in this regard. However, that doesn't mean such symptoms can't happen. Most women can tolerate 10mg/ed pretty well. 6wks of use is normally a good run. There's nothing wrong with starting with a lower dose but 10mg will generally produce solid results with minimal negative impacts. There are some who will experience virilization symptoms even at this dose, it's impossible to predict. If they occur and you discontinue use at the onset of the symptoms they should clear in a short period of time. A day? I doubt it, but it shouldn't take long. It's when you ignore the symptoms and continue using AAS that they can become permanent and irreversible.

Some may say 10mg is too low, but if it's actual Anavar and accurately dosed most women should notice solid results. Some can tolerate more, but there's no reason to start with more and often 10mg is as much as many women ever want. In the end it is goal dependent but every time you increase the dose this does increase the risk of virilization. Doses of 20mg+ tend to greatly increase the odds.

Birth control, I can't see the Anavar negatively affecting her birth control, but like ElectraMaddox said I can see it hindering her results. How much I'm not sure.

Winstrol, some women can use it fairly well. 5mg/ed is a solid dose. However, this steroid tends to cause problems more commonly in some women than Anavar. I wouldn't say the majority if they're keeping the dose low, but more commonly than Anavar. She would probably be best served sticking with Anavar for her first run. Primobolan Depot is also a good choice...the combo stack of Anavar and Primo tends to do pretty well, but I'd save something like that for later on down the road.

All that said, in my opinion one of the best stacks on earth for just about any female is Anavar, HGH and T3.

Thanks very much! And unless you got some gh laying around, I domt stand a shot. Beem barking up those trees for weeks. Do you think 4 weeks isnanlong enough cycle for var? I only have 300mgs but I have a lot of winstrol. If 5mgs is fine, she can try that. Or finish that and run winstrol 2 extra weeks at like 25mg eod. What you you think on this? Finish the var with 2 weeks of winstrol?
Thanks a ton metalject!

[Metalject]

I wouldn't have her use the Winstrol this time...especially that much. I would see how she responds to Anavar only. 4wks is enough time to see how she reacts and how well she does. If 300 tabs is what you have (based on what you're saying I'm assuming they are 10mg) I'd just go with 10mg/ed for 4wks and then plan on more later on. If she does well and she probably will, she'll want more before too long.

Yeah, I don't have any extra HGH lying around. Unfortunately, I don't have any lying around. For some reason they still don't sell it at Walmart...but once they do I'll be buying it all. Anyway...the good news is if you were able to find some it wouldn't take much. Most women can do very well with 1iu/ed. When you couple this in with steroid use it will be noticeably effective. Granted, 2iu would be pretty awesome, but 1iu will do more than many might think. This is assuming you have real HGH.

[warmouth]

I wouldn't have her use the Winstrol this time...especially that much. I would see how she responds to Anavar only. 4wks is enough time to see how she reacts and how well she does. If 300 tabs is what you have (based on what you're saying I'm assuming they are 10mg) I'd just go with 10mg/ed for 4wks and then plan on more later on. If she does well and she probably will, she'll want more before too long.

Yeah, I don't have any extra HGH lying around. Unfortunately, I don't have any lying around. For some reason they still don't sell it at Walmart...but once they do I'll be buying it all. Anyway...the good news is if you were able to find some it wouldn't take much. Most women can do very well with 1iu/ed. When you couple this in with steroid use it will be noticeably effective. Granted, 2iu would be pretty awesome, but 1iu will do more than many might think. This is assuming you have real HGH.

Thanks metalject. I didn't know how hgh effected women, especially like that. Might have to look into that one.

[Lunk1]

Virilization symptoms are the primary concern for most women when it comes to steroid use. The reason many prefer Anavar is it tends to be the friendliest in this regard. However, that doesn't mean such symptoms can't happen. Most women can tolerate 10mg/ed pretty well. 6wks of use is normally a good run. There's nothing wrong with starting with a lower dose but 10mg will generally produce solid results with minimal negative impacts. There are some who will experience virilization symptoms even at this dose, it's impossible to predict. If they occur and you discontinue use at the onset of the symptoms they should clear in a short period of time. A day? I doubt it, but it shouldn't take long. It's when you ignore the symptoms and continue using AAS that they can become permanent and irreversible.

Some may say 10mg is too low, but if it's actual Anavar and accurately dosed most women should notice solid results. Some can tolerate more, but there's no reason to start with more and often 10mg is as much as many women ever want. In the end it is goal dependent but every time you increase the dose this does increase the risk of virilization. Doses of 20mg+ tend to greatly increase the odds.

Birth control, I can't see the Anavar negatively affecting her birth control, but like ElectraMaddox said I can see it hindering her results. How much I'm not sure.

Winstrol, some women can use it fairly well. 5mg/ed is a solid dose. However, this steroid tends to cause problems more commonly in some women than Anavar. I wouldn't say the majority if they're keeping the dose low, but more commonly than Anavar. She would probably be best served sticking with Anavar for her first run. Primobolan Depot is also a good choice...the combo stack of Anavar and Primo tends to do pretty well, but I'd save something like that for later on down the road.

All that said, in my opinion one of the best stacks on earth for just about any female is Anavar, HGH and T3.

Metel...I noticed you mentioned T3 but is there any possible issues with her specific situation due to the fact she is already on Thyroid meds??????

[Bonaparte]

Metel...I noticed you mentioned T3 but is there any possible issues with her specific situation due to the fact she is already on Thyroid meds??????

No. There would be even less issue. It's like adding test to your TRT for a blast.

[DigitalGorilla]

You really think 5 and 10mg is enough? My wife plans her first Var run in a few weeks and the plan was 25mg to start...am I missing something?

Thats WAY too much. She will get var clit.

[DigitalGorilla]

My wife has taken 3 cycles of Var -- and never took anything else. She starts at .5 ed- and goes up .5 each week and works up to 20mgs a day which she stays at for 2 weeks then goes back down. Her app definitly is way less active, but so is her libido. Strength goes way up - so there for so does her work outs. I would defintily say to try it but start small. A friends gf had major liver failure from Anavar and some other shit she was taking. They had to put her on some kind of tube to flush her system out - ..........

[warmouth]

No. There would be even less issue. It's like adding test to your TRT for a blast.

Good catch Lunk! This is also very informing information. I didnt know this at all.

[Metalject]

Metel...I noticed you mentioned T3 but is there any possible issues with her specific situation due to the fact she is already on Thyroid meds??????

I was speaking in generalities when I made that final comment. In her specific case, I would think what Bonaparte said would often be true, but there could be some exceptions...possibly.

[warmouth]

I was speaking in generalities when I made that final comment. In her specific case, I would think what Bonaparte said would often be true, but there could be some exceptions...possibly.

Well, she started today. She wont come of birth control though. Since she has 30-10mg tabs, she started with 5mgs. I told her to stick with 5mgs for 2 weeks, then if all is well, she could finish the last 3 weeks with 10mgs. She got flushed at the gym today, real red all over, I told her it was a little too soon to see any effects. Pretty sure she felt a good placebo effect. She has a spin class twice a week for an hour, so I told her that might get to be too much considering the calf pumps. Her concern now is acne. She said "If this makes me get acne, Im off!" Lol, Im sure she will get at least a little. Its pretty cool that she is trying this. Hopefully it has a nice little libido boost!

[twitz]

Well, she started today. She wont come of birth control though. Since she has 30-10mg tabs, she started with 5mgs. I told her to stick with 5mgs for 2 weeks, then if all is well, she could finish the last 3 weeks with 10mgs. She got flushed at the gym today, real red all over, I told her it was a little too soon to see any effects. Pretty sure she felt a good placebo effect. She has a spin class twice a week for an hour, so I told her that might get to be too much considering the calf pumps. Her concern now is acne. She said "If this makes me get acne, Im off!" Lol, Im sure she will get at least a little. Its pretty cool that she is trying this. Hopefully it has a nice little libido boost!

She probably won't start to really notice it till the 2 week mark.

She can take taurine to help prevent pumps.

Vit B in in her shake to help offset acne

If she isn't acne prone, she may not even have to worry at 10mg

Good luck to her!

[warmouth]

She probably won't start to really notice it till the 2 week mark.

She can take taurine to help prevent pumps.

Vit B in in her shake to help offset acne

If she isn't acne prone, she may not even have to worry at 10mg

Good luck to her!

Thanks alot! I can tell she is excited. It is so funny because she is a very conservative person. Do you think that the cycle plan sounds good for her first time too? It is:
Weeks 1 and 2
5mgs ED
Weeks 3-5(if she is doing good)
10mgs ED

[twitz]

Thanks alot! I can tell she is excited. It is so funny because she is a very conservative person. Do you think that the cycle plan sounds good for her first time too? It is:
Weeks 1 and 2
5mgs ED
Weeks 3-5(if she is doing good)
10mgs ED

I think she will really like her results! It sounds good to me, but if things go well (and I'm sure they will), I would consider 6 weeks.

Week 1-2 - 5mg ED
Week 3-5 - 10mg ED
Week 6 - 5mg ED

[warmouth]

I think she will really like her results! It sounds good to me, but if things go well (and I'm sure they will), I would consider 6 weeks.

Week 1-2 - 5mg ED
Week 3-5 - 10mg ED
Week 6 - 5mg ED

That was the plan. But she only has 30 tabs left over from a buddies last run. We could do 5mg ed for 7 weeks, but if we bump to 10, itll end at 5weeks. I'm planning on brewing, so maybe I can be done before she finishes up.

[madracer]

My girl just ran var for the first time at 10mg ed for 7 weeks and gained 10 lbs.. 32 yo 5,1 103 lbs 12%bf, now she 113 at 12%.. just to warn you if shes like my girl she wants to jump up to 25mg and stay on for another 8 weeks..

[MuscleInk]

Warmouth,

Great post! My wife and I have been discussing the same topic. Her initial concerns were the virilization which I dismissed for her. Unfortunately. I only have 50mg tabs on hand currently and I don't want my HAW starting on such a high dose. I've got her on 15mg phen right now to see what that does for her. I'm going to keep her on at 2 weeks and see if she sees anything - although 15mg may be too low for 2 wks. I thought about a var + phen combo for her, but not unless I get her 10mg tabs.

As far as bc issues, the other posters are correct. There isn't much data in the way to show any disruption to her bc although her normal menstrual cycle could be affected (lenght, timing, flow). The bc issues doesn't concern me as much. We are both on bc, I call mine "gear".