Thoughts on Deca? Is it worth it?

[Iliftstuffupandown]

Hey guys, I want to do a cycle with test, deca, dbol (dbol for 4 weeks) and it would consist of 600 mg of test e, 400 mg of deca and 40 mg of dbol. Arimidex on hand, letro on hand, aromasin on hand, prami on hand, nolvadex and clomid on hand. <--- covered my ass there just in case. I will be running an AI the entire cycle starting with aromasin at 12.5 eod and adjust accordingly and then maybe swtich to arimidex when the bottle of aromasin runs out? Is it bad to switch from one AI to another during the same cycle? the arimidex would be ran at .5 eod and adjusted accordingly.

Stats:
Age: 23. Yes I know, should wait until 25 but I want to do this now and I am aware of the risks.
cycle experience: This would be my second cycle. My first was test E 500 mg, and dbol 40 mg first four weeks
Lifting experience: Since I was 16 on and off (4 months on and like 3months off) But have been going 5 days a week since 20. 3 solid years.
Height: 5'9
Weight: 185
Body fat: 11.2% at 5'9 185 that is good for only one cycle I would say. I also have a very small bone structure. like 6.5 inch wrists. So i feel like if I had regular sized bones with the amount of muscle I have now I'd be like 215.

My main question is... Is deca worth it? What are you guy's opinion's on Deca (please only those who have personally used it)

This will be my first cycle with a 19nor.

Thanks guys.

[Iliftstuffupandown]

Anyone? I basically just want to hear success stories of Deca and whether it is good or not. I've heard local success stories at my gym from "bros" but sometimes I don't know if I should listen to them as I have caught them in lies and one guy didn't even know how many mg's of Test E he was on lmfao. He just eye balled it!

[Iliftstuffupandown]

Oh and i forgot to mention... "Don't need an AI, that's ***** shit" haha.

[Papa Smurf]

What were your gains like on your first cycle, how much of it did you keep, how long ago was this cycle?

[Times Roman]

Some don't get the dreaded dik....

...others do.

Other than that, it really jacks your vascularity@!

[Iliftstuffupandown]

My first cycle was a disaster because I ended up hurting my rotater cuff from going to heavy on the bench because I was gaining so much strength so fast so although I could lift it, my tendons we're not capable of handling the weight. I later learned about collagen synthesis and how testosterone alone will decrease this. Another reason why I am excited to take Deca because I had read from numerous sources that Deca will boost collagen synthesis and quite substantially too.

My first cycle lasted 12 weeks however I only worked out for the first 4 weeks. The remainder 8 weeks I simply stayed on the test and did no weight lifting (I know, we all make mistakes. However I learned how to control my estrogen and how to undergo a proper PCT so it was actually quite beneficial in that regard. In the first 4 weeks I gained 25 lbs and then by the end of the cycle I was 30 lbs heavier. I have maintained that weight since (cycle ended 6 months ago)

With the tendon strength thing. Man, AAS is crazy. I went from being able to do 95 lbs dumbells for like 6 to being able to do 120 lbs dumbells (same exact proper form) for 8 reps in 4 weeks. and then rotater cuff injury (which I went to physio for - what a waste of ****ing money... atleast for the physio I personally seen...)

I have been off for 6 months, and I am ready soon to embark on another fun AAS journey. I can currently still do 120 lbs dum bells so its like my body adjusted to the stress (I can do all my workouts pain free and my shoulder made a 100% recovery - taking the 8 weeks off from lifting completely really helped it heal, although I was still on AAS and was wasting it, I still feel I gained something in the knowledge department) and not to mention I maintained the weight and MOST of the strength.

[2jz_calgary]

I'd go with Npp less ester more nandrolone kicks in faster. A lot of the time it's the long ester of deca that gives people sides. Good luck!

[Bonaparte]

Not a fan. I tried it once and got gyno and a bunch of water retention, even with an AI. The mass gains were pretty good, though. Never had any libido issues, unlike with Tren.

[austinite]

Never cycle with it anymore. Just low weekly doses for joints. Works wonders.

[Sgt. Hartman]

Deca bloats me like no other even with ai. I much prefer npp, same strength and mass gains without the bloat.

[Iliftstuffupandown]

Meh, i'll give er a go and see what it's like. Is my ratio okay? 600 test, 400 deca?

[AlinSR]

I always do 2x the test to keep from getting decadick.

[Knockout_Power]

Deca bloats me like no other even with ai. I much prefer npp, same strength and mass gains without the bloat.

I'd go with Npp less ester more nandrolone kicks in faster. A lot of the time it's the long ester of deca that gives people sides. Good luck!

these boys summed up what I was going to say... Also, Deca needs longer durations for decent gains where as NPP can show great gains by the 10 weeks mark.