And i make gains at 21 do you guys think ill be ready to start taking steroids?
That's 4 years of lifting should be pretty close to genetic potential by then.
And i make gains at 21 do you guys think ill be ready to start taking steroids?
That's 4 years of lifting should be pretty close to genetic potential by then.
Its more about your Endocrine system maturing and your growth plates, than it is how much mucsle you've put on or your genetic potential.
Have you seen this thread bro?
The Young and Steroids
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UHBeIa7X_fs
And this one..
When you SHOULDN'T use AAS
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.UMTqoqzX_fs
Yes I've seen them lots of times. Every new guy gets them recommended.
I bet most of you guys took steroids in your early 20s or younger.
Guess again. I started at 39.Originally Posted by musclebrah
MuscleInk
39 here as well, after 20 years of mostly on lifting.
And what does that matter? You're going to do what you're going to do, you just want someone to tell you:
1. Where to get it.
2. How to take it.
3. Everything is gonna be alright.
You want that, listen to Bob Marley, cause you ain't gettin it here mate.
The problem is some people assume every member here is a clueless juice head. Not true. We have a lot of wise, very knowledgable members whose life style is body building and fitness. They come from a variety of professions and backgrounds. They don't just jump on gear hoping to achieve miracles in 60 days. LolOriginally Posted by LGM
MuscleInk
There are an abundance o members who have started before 25...... The vast majority of them will tell you to wait because of shit they experienced. This isn't some site that'll encourage steroid use to anyone and everyone. This place strives to teach the SAFE usage of steroids.
Safe means not starting until you've fully developed. Which is why most people won't recommend starting to you new members. Those members who have listened and spent years on this site learning not just about steroids but also about proper dieting, training, and rest will tell you that it was well worth it.
The problem is most kids don't want to wait. I understand that...... It's human nature. I won't hate someone for it but I also won't be influenced by it and give advice which I know is unsafe. As a legal adult who thinks they're mature enough for steroids - you and others should respect that.
~Haz~
I'm one of the ones that did aas prior to 25. I'm 28 and have natty test levels in LOW 300's. just a shade above the low threshold.Originally Posted by Hazard
-TroN-
You and me both..... TRT for us hah.Originally Posted by Tron3219
oh and to the OP I didnt start tell 29 actually a month before my 30th
I've been lifting much younger than you. pre tean when I picked up my first weights.
worked out solid til i was about 25. took a few years off. hit it hard again ffrom about 36 til abouut 41. Started again this last time when i was almost 47. Been at it for a little over 4 years this last time.
Now to answer your question, I waited til my 40's.
sorry to disappoint you that I waited til i was more than twice your age mate!
Why would I wanna wait till I'm 25+
21 is the best age to be huge and ripped its your prime brahs I know you get it !
We do get it. It's you that don't get it!Originally Posted by musclebrah
-TroN-
You are showing your age every time you post. And I can tell you it gets better when you get some maturity on your body with age. I started when I was 30, I knew nothing about AI and Estradiol , my estrogen levels and I have some bitch tits at age 61. At age 61 I'm almost doing better with my lifting and aas then when I was younger. Now you can take the with a grain of salt but my growth and hardness is real good. I anticipate maybe getting bigger then I ever dig when I was young. there is a lot to be said about the mature muscle. Don't be a jerk and listen, even if you don't do it right it's stupid to argue with experience. Do you think we are here to keep the lid on getting big and we are lying. What possibly be our motive. Think, think , think if you can. ...crazy mike
and why would we lie, why, ...get that.....cm
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Prime? No, that's BS. At 21 you're young, foolish, impetuous, and self absorbed - most of us were at that age. You think your vanity is the most important thing only because you haven't really started to live your life.Originally Posted by musclebrah
We know its not easy being told no. Understand we aren't saying no because we're trying to confiscate all the gear globally for our own consumption. It's because many of us did make the mistake of cycling too young and eventually paid a price.
Yes, you'll see a lot of posts from young guys gloating about their amazing results. Unfortunately, many are too ashamed to return after they've screwed themselves up or lost most of their gains simply because of a little thing called "pride".
Regrettably, most young guys will be too damn proud to humble themselves and heed the advice given.
MuscleInk
prime for what?
boxers hit their prime close to 30 - they have to have a crazy mix of strength, speed and stamina
vascular surgeons hit their prime closer to their 40's
many body builders get massive in their early 30's
when you are 21, most males are still trying to control their penis, damn thing goes off too soon. So you damn sure aint in your sexual prime!
Right now, your brain is still developing, and will continue to do so until around age 25. So intellectually you are NOT in your prime.
Auto insurance companies charge you a much higher premium than they do someone in their 30's. Why, because males under 25 haven't developed enough judgement to know not to get wreckless in their cars
From a financial perspective, your best earning occurs from your mid 40's til your late 50's. So you are not in your financial prime.
So I'm confused brah, which "prime" are you referring? Cause no matter how you slice it, I don't see you there yet!
Whatever guys I'm still gonna do it. Thanks for NOT helping out
Just like I expected...such a good website ruined by such negativity
U did get help, it just wasn't what u wanted to hear. The negativity stems solely from you.Originally Posted by musclebrah
-TroN-
Can't fix immature stupidity guys. I caught in several posts ago. Hey we want all the gear to ourselves or something. Can fix him he's not listening and hasn't been. ....crazy mike
....and just as we expected. Another little kid pouting because he didn't get what he wanted. There will be other disappointments in your life junior, because life isn't about getting everything you want and anything of significant value only comes from disciplined hard work.Originally Posted by musclebrah
Don't lose the link to the forum. When you can't sustain an erection, your BP is abnormally high, you have hypercholesterolemia, your breasts are enlarged, you're fatigued more than usual, you are anxious and/or depressed, and you suffer from repeated injuries or bouts of arthralgia and myalgia, you'll be looking for help.
You kids are a dime a dozen. There will be 10 more just like you in the next half hour asking the same tired old questions you asked.
MuscleInk
Do you not think his monicker says it all? Clearly another **** worshiper.
I'm definitely not 'mirin'.
NO SOURCES GIVEN
do you even lift brah?
Posted 2/2/2013 by OP
So he's gone back in age by 3 years and been lifting for 2 less years now!?!?!?!Originally Posted by musclebrah
By the end of May he will be 15 and won't be starting to lift for another year!
NO SOURCES GIVEN
LMAO lol laughed at this so hard xD ... pra i think you should listen to them cuz sooner or later if you fuak up you will be back here for TRT help ... when you hit 21 check your endocrine system wit ur endo doc .. if its developed start it if not wait till 25 i know 25+ is already an old age in many people's eyes but well its luck :/ and also if you go on any other roid website they will tell you the same thing ... i asked the same questions on other sites they were also saying 21/'25 and this site is a little kinder then the others sooooo yeah
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Lmao. BIB, I respect and appreciate your humor and attention to detail. It's comical how these guys sometimes change their stories more often then the wind changes directions.Originally Posted by Back In Black
MuscleInk
I just took dbols and a few test e shots at appox 17-18yrs old and i ended up with the following: Gyno, depression, Rosacea from high BP, Erectile dysfunction, shrunken testicles, and stretch marks on my ass and armpits to name a few.... Took me a lot of money, time, energy and hard work to get back to normal and even longer to get where i am now...it really is no joke, i wish i never touched the stuff
Speaking of negativity.... It's kind of ironic that he'd say it...
These fvcking kids, if only they'd listen. In the long run if they would just stop being a bunch of pig-headed idiots, they'd probably end up with a better physique in the end than they would if they just jump in to a cycle at that age. I mean never mind the age problem, he's been lifting for one fvcking year (if even he's even been truthful about that) and he thinks he's ready for gear. With at that point, you're still just beginning to learn about nutrition and training and how it applies to you. You can't have a solid foundation at that point.
And on top of that, he's still too fvcking young. If he spent the next 5-7 years working on dieting and training, he could have built himself a decent natural physique and then be ready to really benefit from a cycle.
Anyone with Brah in their name or azz should be automatically banned anyways.![]()
Finally some good advise thanks bro will check my endocrine system by the doc before starting..Originally Posted by RajaSultan
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