Second cycle

[Djim]

Planning on going for a second cycle, like to hear some oppinions about it.


Week 1-10 test EN 500 mg per week
Week 1-10 tren EN 400 mg per week
Week 1-6 turinabol 50 mg per day (5 tabs)

PCT:
Week11-14 nolvadex 30 mg per day (3 tabs)

any additions/oppinions are welcome

[Back In Black]

Stats? Although at 21 you probably know what's coming regardless of anything else?

[Djim]

Indeed, nevertheless.

79 KG
10% BF
1,84M
22 by now (Keep it constructive though)

[redz]

Why Tren for 2nd cycle? PCT is way too weak, ai? prolactin control? hcg?

[Back In Black]

I'd argue you are too light at 174lbs and 6foot tall, let alone the fact that that you are too young. Sorry.

I'd suggest you spend time in the nutrition forum and build a fantastic base over the next 3 years.

[lifeofdefiance]

if you're set on doing tren, use tren a the first time in case sides get bad.

Also I'd recc doing high tren low test. Working great for me right now and many people swear by it. That's your call though. And if you're using long esters like proposed in your cycle plan you need to wait 2 weeks after your last pin to start PCT. Plus your PCT is not sufficient for running tren. add clomid too.

[MickeyKnox]

Indeed, nevertheless.

79 KG
10% BF
1,84M
22 by now (Keep it constructive though)

I agree with everything above.

I think a little more reading and research would benefit you, particularly for someone your age. Your natural testosterone levels are sky high right now. I would concentrate on taking advantage of that as you can make tremendous gains in following few short years.

It’s best to know the complications and associated health risks that could affect you should you decide to embark on this journey sooner than later. A few more years to allow your developing endocrine system to finish growing, and then perhaps look at using AAS.

Its also important to understand what it is your putting into your body and the associated roles these compounds play, and the dreaded side effects that are bound to creep up on you - especially if you didn’t do your homework. Otherwise you could be setting yourself up for a host of unwanted side affects including premature closure of your growth plates, Erectile Dysfunction, Gynecomastia (b*tch t*ts), and more.

And like the others have said, you need to learn to eat properly before you learn to use AAS. If you do a cycle now, you likely will not keep any of it because you have not built a foundation for any new muscle to grow on. You first need to build some solid dense muscle in order to maintain any new muscle. Then, you need to eat more to maintain your new muscle. It’s all about eating. Figure out your TDEE and up your cals at least 500 each day to gain some weight. Workout regularly and eat a high calorie clean balanced diet. There's no magic pill. The magic is EATING.

Post your intended diet here including macros and the pros in there will assist you in tweaking your diet to fit your intended goals. Good luck!

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[songdog]

Putting your age aside bro.You dont need tren and you dont need aas.You need to learn how to eat.Beacuse until then you will always be small.Food is wat will make you big not more aas.

[OdinsOtherSon]

Agree^^. Even if you were older, I'd say stick with a straight up test cycle....even for 3rd and 4th cycles.