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    Cjc and ghrp for women??

    My wife wants to do peptides with me to aid in her fatloss..

    I hear the cjc 1295 WITH dac is better and she would use ghrp 2 not 6 so the hunger won't be as strong..
    Can anyone advise?

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    as in DAC is better for women or in general?

    usually we want to mimic a pulse effect similar to what out body naturally does. DAC would be a constant flow which isnt a desirable effect.

    -2 comes with a few more sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by largerthannormal
    as in DAC is better for women or in general?

    usually we want to mimic a pulse effect similar to what out body naturally does. DAC would be a constant flow which isnt a desirable effect.

    -2 comes with a few more sides
    Give me the best overall protocol,

    She just wants 2x a day

    100mcg/of both,

    6 is impossible with her fat loss goals ..

    2 or possible Iamp?
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    women secrete endogenous GH different then men. As a women secretes a constant very small amount of GH throughout the day and night (much like what CJC-1295 with DAC gives us). Where as guys secrete endogenous GH in large pulses throughout the day and night. This being said I've hearD of women taking CJC-1295 with DAC with a GHRP and having success, but I've also read that CJC-1295 no DAC with GHRP has been used with success too. I've personally given my gf a morning and before bed dose of 50mcg cjc-1295 no DAC and 50mcg GHRP-2 with good success. She noticed almost immediate deeper sleep and recovery. I wouldn't advise going over 50mcg of each with women as they can't handle really large pulses of GH without sides (such as lethargy).

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    Quote Originally Posted by M302_Imola View Post
    women secrete endogenous GH different then men. As a women secretes a constant very small amount of GH throughout the day and night (much like what CJC-1295 with DAC gives us). Where as guys secrete endogenous GH in large pulses throughout the day and night. This being said I've hearD of women taking CJC-1295 with DAC with a GHRP and having success, but I've also read that CJC-1295 no DAC with GHRP has been used with success too. I've personally given my gf a morning and before bed dose of 50mcg cjc-1295 no DAC and 50mcg GHRP-2 with good success. She noticed almost immediate deeper sleep and recovery. I wouldn't advise going over 50mcg of each with women as they can't handle really large pulses of GH without sides (such as lethargy).
    Awesome thanks for the reply..

    Ill stick with the 50mcg dosage schedule like you did..

    I use 100iu pins with 50 ticks.. I mixed 1ml of BW in the 2mg cjc and 2.5 BW in the ghrp.... At such a low dose of 50mcg that like 1 tick and a half, lol that's going to be a pain..

    I would think getting the 1/2 cc pins might be easier to dose? Hell even at the 100mcg I do.. That is 2.5 ticks of each which is a pain.

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    X2 ^^^ ( forgot about the womens secretion is not the same as males, good call Imola!)

    Quote Originally Posted by m302_imola View Post
    women secrete endogenous gh different then men. As a women secretes a constant very small amount of gh throughout the day and night (much like what cjc-1295 with dac gives us). Where as guys secrete endogenous gh in large pulses throughout the day and night. This being said i've heard of women taking cjc-1295 with dac with a ghrp and having success, but i've also read that cjc-1295 no dac with ghrp has been used with success too. I've personally given my gf a morning and before bed dose of 50mcg cjc-1295 no dac and 50mcg ghrp-2 with good success. She noticed almost immediate deeper sleep and recovery. I wouldn't advise going over 50mcg of each with women as they can't handle really large pulses of gh without sides (such as lethargy).

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01 View Post
    Awesome thanks for the reply..

    Ill stick with the 50mcg dosage schedule like you did..

    I use 100iu pins with 50 ticks.. I mixed 1ml of BW in the 2mg cjc and 2.5 BW in the ghrp.... At such a low dose of 50mcg that like 1 tick and a half, lol that's going to be a pain..

    I would think getting the 1/2 cc pins might be easier to dose? Hell even at the 100mcg I do.. That is 2.5 ticks of each which is a pain.
    Yeah get the 1/2 cc slin pins...I reconstitute my peps just as you described above so when I do 50mcg I always pull close to the 3iu line with 1/2cc pins...kind of a pain as 5iu (100mcg) is much easier but not that big of a deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by largerthannormal View Post
    X2 ^^^ ( forgot about the womens secretion is not the same as males, good call Imola!)
    Thanks bro!

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    So maybe my lethargy is because of too high doses of ipamorelin/cjc 1295- each 100 mcg 3x a day. It is awful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost14
    So maybe my lethargy is because of too high doses of ipamorelin/cjc 1295- each 100 mcg 3x a day. It is awful!
    How long have you been taking these peps? I found that after a couple weeks, the lethargy sides diminish.

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    ive been on them for 4 months and I agree! even the flushing feeling has gone away for me. Im guessing this may have to do with IGF levels already staying elevated, not sure but it seems about the same timing

    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Diamond View Post
    How long have you been taking these peps? I found that after a couple weeks, the lethargy sides diminish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Diamond View Post
    How long have you been taking these peps? I found that after a couple weeks, the lethargy sides diminish.
    Four weeks igf-1lr3 - lethargy started almost immediately then, three weeks ipamorelin and two weeks cjc1295. I added new peptited as I read more.

    I do not know if it has something with thyroid function. I have been taking t4 for many years, four/five weeks ago I felt rather into hyper - slightly, and for last 2-3 weeks I have vivid symptomps of hypo. A week ago I increased daily dose significantly - from 50 to 75 mcg, and noticed some improvement. Normally I could not increase daily dose so significantly without unpleasent sides, so there is something wrong.

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    The most potent weight loss peptide is HGH Fragment 176-191 which is the part of the Growth Hormone molecule responsible for fat burning. In HGH Frag Studies, it has been proven to reduce body fat, particularly in the abdominal area. The second most potent fat loss peptide is CJC-1295 DAC since it causes the overall GH level to rise in the body (the opposite of what happens naturally as a person gets older, which is why people tend to put on weight as they age). If your only goal is fat loss, it's often best to avoid the use of GHRP products (GHRP-6, GHRP-2 or Ipamorelin) since they can stimulate hunger and/or raise cortisol, both of which can be counterproductive to fat burning.

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    Also DAC is not a desired effect in MEN

    GHRPs alone are useless needs to be ran with a GHRH

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    good info bro, but they all have advanatges and some cause less hunger/cortisol/prolactin levels than others.

    -2 will cause high cortisol/prolactin but does not seem to have the hunger side effect( but is technically stronger)
    -6 doesnt have as bad cortisol/prolactin issues but will cause hunger

    last jw since this site is sponsord by ar-r i dont think he appreciates your advertisement.
    Last edited by largerthannormal; 04-15-2013 at 09:42 AM.

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    Lol my wife has gained a crap ton of water weight ... is this normal and If so will it go away?

    She is only doing 50/50 2 times a day.. Morning and before bed

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    not a common side effect I am aware of.

    how long has she been on and what are the exact ones shes using?

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    cjc 1295 mod grf 1-29 and GHRP6 from GWP

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    def not a fan of their products...

    she just started didnt she? how much weight has she added? nothing else has changed?

    I dont think shes even ben on long enough for IGF levels to have stayed elevated...

    so she went with the non DAC version?

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    well I had bought like 10 vials of the cjc no dac with no intention of her running. Then I decided to put her on.. figured I would use what I already bought instead of buying more,

    Other things I have bought from GWP has been great,. especially the mt2..

    I have heard to use other places for the pricey Peptides, was told that cjc and ghrp are so cheap for them to buy it wouldn't make sense to use bunk powder..

    Ill try someone else after these are done to compare, wish I didn't buy so much lol

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    Well if i had to say the reason i would say its the GHRP-6, it is a peptide that is a member of the growth factor family of peptides.It almost promotes hunger and appetite by stimulating a release in Ghrelin which is a peptide in the stomach which promotes appetite and gastric emptying. Some users of this substance report an increase in strength and muscle mass, along with an overall sense of better well being and decreased body fat. The peptide affects the neurons in a similar fashion that some steroids do causing a significant in strength increase. It is important to note that moderate use of this peptide will usually be accompanied by a gain in water weight or bloat . This may make the fat burning effects of the substance go unnoticed during use. Althought this is said to be true i never actually expierinced it myself. I actually leaned out. Maybe women are different a little

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    Quote Originally Posted by largerthannormal
    Well if i had to say the reason i would say its the GHRP-6, it is a peptide that is a member of the growth factor family of peptides.It almost promotes hunger and appetite by stimulating a release in Ghrelin which is a peptide in the stomach which promotes appetite and gastric emptying. Some users of this substance report an increase in strength and muscle mass, along with an overall sense of better well being and decreased body fat. The peptide affects the neurons in a similar fashion that some steroids do causing a significant in strength increase. It is important to note that moderate use of this peptide will usually be accompanied by a gain in water weight or bloat . This may make the fat burning effects of the substance go unnoticed during use. Althought this is said to be true i never actually expierinced it myself. I actually leaned out. Maybe women are different a little
    Thanks for the post ! I did some research that showed other women having the same issue.. She will stay on and hopefully it will subside.

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    What would be better for her..the peps 2x a day or 1iu a day of pharm growth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01
    What would be better for her..the peps 2x a day or 1iu a day of pharm growth?
    Bump for an answer to this,

    Was thinking of just giving her 1iu a day instead of peps but if those peps are pulsing out 1 or more natural gh it would seem a waste to go the gh route..

    What's your take?

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    Slim shady. Would you mind providing regular updates to her progress. I am very interested in protocals and status.


    I was on hgh for over year. Took some time off, source dried up and looking to restart soon. I prefer some cheaper alternatives if they work! Thx for the consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
    Slim shady. Would you mind providing regular updates to her progress. I am very interested in protocals and status.

    I was on hgh for over year. Took some time off, source dried up and looking to restart soon. I prefer some cheaper alternatives if they work! Thx for the consideration.
    Will def update, so far just some bloat and she seems more tired then normal .

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01 View Post
    What would be better for her..the peps 2x a day or 1iu a day of pharm growth?
    I would stay with peps over the hgh for women. Make sure that you're not dosing more than 50mcg of each morning and night. It is common for man or women to gain some water weight initially when GH levels are increased. This will subdue soon...make sure her diet is on par (low sodium as well as low carbs) and make sure she is drinking plenty of water. Has her sleep improved? She should be sleeping like a baby (deep sleep). Keep us updated bro!

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    Thanks Imola,

    She is following a low carb diet now roughly 60 a day with higher protein and moderate fat.

    Trains 5 days a week with me and does 5 days of cardio 30-45 min.

    I just bought her some HGH Frag 176 that im going to let her try for a month. debating now 500mcg in the AM before gym on a empty stomach or 250 morning then 250 at bed.

    I got her enough for 500mcg a day for a month. I most likely wont buy anymore as it gets to expensive.

    I also ordered with that GHRP2 for her to try vs the 6.

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    Update,


    Getting the wife to start a log today !

    She will post each day with diet , training and cardio along with peptide dosing etc. it will be very detailed and keep her accountable .

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01
    Update,

    Getting the wife to start a log today !

    She will post each day with diet , training and cardio along with peptide dosing etc. it will be very detailed and keep her accountable .
    Logs help me a lot. Would you be opposed to her joining this site??? Girly would luv to have more gals

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

    Logs help me a lot. Would you be opposed to her joining this site??? Girly would luv to have more gals
    She has a login from a while ago..

    The log will be posted in this forum topic and updated everyday or close to it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01

    She has a login from a while ago..

    The log will be posted in this forum topic and updated everyday or close to it!
    Awesome. I am already subscribed . I like to learn!! And will thank her when she surfaces.

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    should be up tonight. We got 4 kids and things get very hectic around here.. Once they are in bed I am sure she will start the log.

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