First Cycle

[Doom44]

this is my first cycle. my question is how long can i see the gain?

Wk 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate = 250mg twice/wk
Wk 1-4 Dianabol (Dbol ) = 30mg/day
Wk 1-12 Arimidex 2mg EOD
Wk 1-14 hCG = 250iu twice/wk - day before test injection.

PCT
Begins wk 15 to wk 19
Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

[MickeyKnox]

this is my first cycle. my question is how long can i see the gain?

Wk 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate = 250mg /wk
Wk 1-4 Dianabol (Dbol ) = 30mg/day
Wk 1-12 Arimidex 2mg EOD
Wk 1-14 hCG = 250iu /wk - day before test injection.

PCT
Begins wk 15 to wk 19
Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

You should begin to notice it around wk 4 and will continue to make gains up to wk 10ish, or more depending on several variables.

Sorry, i misunderstood your Adex for hCG for some reason.

Adex should be .25mg EOD to begin, as Marcus has correctly suggested.

And that cycle reads 250mg TWICE per wk, unless you have intentionally changed it. If so, that protocol wont do much for you. But before you cycle i would heed Marcus's advice and put on some quality mass. Youre a bit too light.

Hard Gainers - Gaining Weight

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...!#.UISXU2fX_ft

[clarky.]

Is the 12.5 a typo mickey ?

[marcus300]

this is my first cycle. my question is how long can i see the gain?

Wk 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate = 250mg /wk
Wk 1-4 Dianabol (Dbol ) = 30mg/day
Wk 1-12 Arimidex 2mg EOD
Wk 1-14 hCG = 250iu /wk - day before test injection.

PCT
Begins wk 15 to wk 19
Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

Can you please let us have your stats?
How long have you been training?

250mgs of test per week is very weak, your going to have to aim for around 400-500mgs to have some decent gains,

your arimidex is to high, you need to take 0.25mgs EOD

[Doom44]

You should begin to notice it around wk 4 and will continue to make gains up to wk 10ish, or more depending on several variables.

Thanks for the answer. It's twice per week

[Doom44]

Can you please let us have your stats?
How long have you been training?

250mgs of test per week is very weak, your going to have to aim for around 400-500mgs to have some decent gains,

your arimidex is to high, you need to take 0.25mgs EOD

Age: 23
Height: 171cm
Weight: 72kg
Lift weight exp: 3
Bf%: 13%

My arimidex is 50 tablets of 1mg . How to make it 0.25mgs? Cause the tablet is quite small

[Doom44]

Can you please let us have your stats?
How long have you been training?

250mgs of test per week is very weak, your going to have to aim for around 400-500mgs to have some decent gains,

your arimidex is to high, you need to take 0.25mgs EOD

Ops, I think I know how to cut it to 0.25mg. Thank

[marcus300]

Age: 23
Height: 171cm
Weight: 72kg
Lift weight exp: 3
Bf%: 13%

My arimidex is 50 tablets of 1mg . How to make it 0.25mgs? Cause the tablet is quite small

I would defiantly try and build more of a foundation over the next 12 months at least before starting any steroids. Concentrate and do more research on training to build mass and also on your diet so you learn how to gain naturally and build more of a base. To divide 1mg tablet into 0.25mgs you split it into 4. Please don't disregard my advice because building your foundation will be one of the best things you can do before starting steroids.

[Doom44]

You should begin to notice it around wk 4 and will continue to make gains up to wk 10ish, or more depending on several variables.

Should I take Arimidex 1.25 mg EOD minimum?

[Doom44]

I would defiantly try and build more of a foundation over the next 12 months at least before starting any steroids. Concentrate and do more research on training to build mass and also on your diet so you learn how to gain naturally and build more of a base. To divide 1mg tablet into 0.25mgs you split it into 4. Please don't disregard my advice because building your foundation will be one of the best things you can do before starting steroids.

Thanks for the advise I really appreciate it. So I should take 12 months to build more mass in natural way right?

[marcus300]

Thanks for the advise I really appreciate it. So I should take 12 months to build more mass in natural way right?

Yes in my opinion this will be an excellent learning curve for you and also will be very beneficial for you at achieving your future goals.

[MickeyKnox]

Is the 12.5 a typo mickey ?

Yes it is. I have edited my post to reflect this. Thanks for pointing that out Clarky.

Sorry for the confusion Doom.

[Doom44]

Yes it is. I have edited my post to reflect this. Thanks for pointing that out Clarky.

Sorry for the confusion Doom.

Thanks bro!! It's twice per week.

[Relpur]

Good post - I'm about to start my first cycle that is very similar:

Test E. wk1-3 500mg then wk4 750mg wk5-6 500mg and wk7 250mg

dbol- wk1 - 20mg day wk2-3 30mg day wk4 40mg day wk5-6 30mg day

starting proviron 25mg/day for week 3-5 then nolvadex 10mg on week 6 and then off until week 10-12 10 mg/day nolva

have been reading conflicting ideas about nolvadex and clomid and proviron but overall seems like nolvadex is best SERM

[crazy mike]

Hey Doom, you have gotten solid advice from these guys. They are up to snuff with their knowledge and experience. Glad you came here to get it straight. Stick around and read more to learn more ....crazy mike

[clarky.]

Good post - I'm about to start my first cycle that is very similar:

Test E. wk1-3 500mg then wk4 750mg wk5-6 500mg and wk7 250mg

dbol- wk1 - 20mg day wk2-3 30mg day wk4 40mg day wk5-6 30mg day

starting proviron 25mg/day for week 3-5 then nolvadex 10mg on week 6 and then off until week 10-12 10 mg/day nolva

have been reading conflicting ideas about nolvadex and clomid and proviron but overall seems like nolvadex is best SERM

Hi relpur have a look at the beginer cycles in the stickies because that cycles is mest up you don't have to do that with your test stick to round the 500mg wk mark for your first cycle. What about a AI because proviron won't do the same job if your thinking that pct would be nolva and clomid have a read then post up a cycle.

[j.hong80]

hello,
im 33 yrs old. im not sure about body fat maybe about 20%
im trying to trim down, in the gym 5 days a week solid with cario and lifting
eating is clean and consistent,
i need help! asap!

i started a test and masteron cycle 4 weeks ago, im on my fifth week.
i know its my bad,. didnt do enough research but im already in too deep to quit. ive experienced fat loss and i look and feel better but i want to add trenbolone acetate to my cycle.

curently im doin 200m of test and 1.5m of masteron. how much tren should i add or is it even ssafe to add it?

[songdog]

Good post - I'm about to start my first cycle that is very similar:

Test E. wk1-3 500mg then wk4 750mg wk5-6 500mg and wk7 250mg

dbol- wk1 - 20mg day wk2-3 30mg day wk4 40mg day wk5-6 30mg day

starting proviron 25mg/day for week 3-5 then nolvadex 10mg on week 6 and then off until week 10-12 10 mg/day nolva

have been reading conflicting ideas about nolvadex and clomid and proviron but overall seems like nolvadex is best SERM

Start your own thread bro.

[MickeyKnox]

Thanks bro!! It's twice per week.

Thats what i thought.

hello,
im 33 yrs old. im not sure about body fat maybe about 20%
im trying to trim down, in the gym 5 days a week solid with cario and lifting
eating is clean and consistent,
i need help! asap!

i started a test and masteron cycle 4 weeks ago, im on my fifth week.
i know its my bad,. didnt do enough research but im already in too deep to quit. ive experienced fat loss and i look and feel better but i want to add trenbolone acetate to my cycle.

curently im doin 200m of test and 1.5m of masteron. how much tren should i add or is it even ssafe to add it?

Welcome to the Forums.

Please start your own thread. Thanks for understanding.

[Relpur]

Thanks Clarky. I'll do a little bit more reading especially on the pct side since that is what concerns me the most.