Cypionate 200 or sustanon 250, which one would be better to gain weight

[Psu fsu]

I want to gain some more weight. Super cut after taking winstrol orally. But need to add couple pounds what's the best

[Lunk1]

Hmmm...let's see. One is testosterone and the other is.....testosterone sooooo

[largerthannormal]

double cheese burgers........

after you down a few of those post up your new stats and we will see if we can help

[stpete]

Let's see your stats and diet.

Thanks.

[Bio-Active]

your weight gain will be determined by your nutrition

[poloblue]

I want to gain some more weight. Super cut after taking winstrol orally. But need to add couple pounds what's the best

It depends in the gear you get... UGL( made in a garage, a basement, some losers bedroom, some idiot picking his nose in a kitchen while crimping viles), you will usually complain about flu like symptoms, baseball size lumbs on your ass, crying about your not gaining, etc,etc,etc...
My last cycle was a 15wk cyp, eq, tbol... Oh it was "UGL"....
This time I'm on pharm grade and transformed in just 4 weeks compare to that bullshit "UGL" gear that took almost 15 weeks to look decent... And I'm only doing sus @ 500wk and look a thousand times better then I did in just 4 weeks with one compound instead of 3 compounds of a UGL... They are sooooooo under dose!!!!!

[Red Bastard]

Simple answer?
Cyp. Blends are impractical.

[ChiveOn]

It depends in the gear you get... UGL( made in a garage, a basement, some losers bedroom, some idiot picking his nose in a kitchen while crimping viles), you will usually complain about flu like symptoms, baseball size lumbs on your ass, crying about your not gaining, etc,etc,etc...
My last cycle was a 15wk cyp, eq, tbol... Oh it was "UGL"....
This time I'm on pharm grade and transformed in just 4 weeks compare to that bullshit "UGL" gear that took almost 15 weeks to look decent... And I'm only doing sus @ 500wk and look a thousand times better then I did in just 4 weeks with one compound instead of 3 compounds of a UGL... They are sooooooo under dose!!!!!

That's entirely opinion based. If you use a shitty ugl you'll get shitty results. Do your research and use a good one and it can be comparable to pharm grade. You can't lump them all together, nor did it answer his question at all....

[Psu fsu]

5"11. 165lbs... About 2500 calories a day. Should I pin twice a week? Should I mix with the wintrols?

[Bio-Active]

With those stats i think you could still make a lot of gains natty before jumping on gear. 165 is a little light for your height

[Psu fsu]

I am light so I'm trying to add about 10 or so pounds. Should I frontload the first shot? I'm very cut just need weight and all these GNC products do zero for me to gain weight. And yes I'm a newbie here. Any help is appreciated

[MuscleInk]

5"11. 165lbs... About 2500 calories a day. Should I pin twice a week? Should I mix with the wintrols?

What's your BF, LBM, and TDEE? If you aren't eating above your TDEE (usually 500 or more cals above), it won't matter what you inject because you wouldn't be eating enough to support growth. There is no way around that.

[Bio-Active]

I am light so I'm trying to add about 10 or so pounds. Should I frontload the first shot? I'm very cut just need weight and all these GNC products do zero for me to gain weight. And yes I'm a newbie here. Any help is appreciated

Most GNC products are just garbage.. You need the most anabolic thing there is on the planet! Food and lots of it. Post up what you ate yesterday

[MuscleInk]

Most GNC products are just garbage.. You need the most anabolic thing there is on the planet! Food and lots of it. Post up what you ate yesterday

^^^Yes. If your goal is to add fat, GNC can certainly help with THAT.

[Bio-Active]

^^^Yes. If your goal is to add fat, GNC can certainly help with THAT.

^^ Yes!!! Dont get me wrong there are just a few suppliments that are ok but they are only supplement and people often use them as a meal replacement. There is no replacement for food

[stpete]

5"11. 165lbs... About 2500 calories a day. Should I pin twice a week? Should I mix with the wintrols?

Leave any AAS alone for now. you need to learn how to eat! As MI said, you won't be able to support the extra muscle tissue so you're wasting your time.

Hit the Nutrition Section and get some free advice from those experts over there. They will et you on the right track.

Good Luck.

[MuscleInk]

^^ Yes!!! Dont get me wrong there are just a few suppliments that are ok but they are only supplement and people often use them as a meal replacement. There is no replacement for food

Correct. There are a few decent products. When I was younger I used to fall victim to the "gainer" craze before I realized how bad those products really are.

[Psu fsu]

I gotta eat more bottom line.

[Bio-Active]

Yes get over to the nutrition forum and post up what you eat. Those experts will dial you in and you will be much happier.

[poloblue]

That's entirely opinion based. If you use a shitty ugl you'll get shitty results. Do your research and use a good one and it can be comparable to pharm grade. You can't lump them all together, nor did it answer his question at all....

We'll just break it down to 5th grade level.....
Northerner come down here to Miami to buy one kilo of cocain... They then add two kilo of whatever fake powder they get they hands on.. Presto!!!!, magic!!!! They now have three kilos of cocain and market their coke as being 100% Colombian coke!!!!!! Under dose?????
FYI been in this game for over 15 years and yet have come across a ugl that's as good as pharm...

[MuscleInk]

I gotta eat more bottom line.

See if you can calculate your LBM and TDEE. That will give you your maintenance calories - the amount of food you need to eat to maintain your current LBM. If you want to gain, you need to eat more than your TDEE for your LBM every day.

As an example, I'm mentoring/training my brother-in-law. He's 5'9, 150lbs with a bf of 15%. That means his LBM is 127.5lbs and his TDEE is 1,912.5 calories. He hasn't been gaining any weight for the past four months and his weight has even dropped below 150 a few times. I asked him to track his calories every day for two weeks to see what his daily intake was. It ranged from 1450 - 2100 during the two weeks he tracked it. That little exercise made him realize how poor his nutrition was. He was eating clean, just not nearly enough to gain any significant weight.

As StPete said, work on nutrition first. That's essential to your success.

[poloblue]

With those stats i think you could still make a lot of gains natty before jumping on gear. 165 is a little light for your height

At 37 years old he done growing.... Drop that juice bro and feel like you 15 again and **** like a porn star bro!!!!

[MuscleInk]

At 37 years old he done growing.... Drop that juice bro and feel like you 15 again and **** like a porn star bro!!!!

Not if he's not eating enough.

[Psu fsu]

Now this is gonna sound really stupid but where's the nutrition forum?

[Bio-Active]

At 37 years old he done growing.... Drop that juice bro and feel like you 15 again and **** like a porn star bro!!!!

Really this is terrible advice... The op will end up loosing all of his gains as soon as he comes off his cycle because he wont be eating enough to maintain them. His bones may be done growing but he can certainly put on more muscle with proper nutrition

[Bio-Active]

Now this is gonna sound really stupid but where's the nutrition forum?

Half way down the main forum page

[MajorPectorial]

Hmmm...let's see. One is testosterone and the other is.....testosterone sooooo

I lmfao at that. It was like u had a connection to my brain man. Hahahaa.

Wait.

You dooonnnt do u?. :$

I got a gun. And a pistol. So I wouldn't!!!

[MajorPectorial]

I personally think eating enough is the hardest part. But its usually the hardest part for everyone once they actually look into it. So truussst me. Look into it. If u haven't u more likely aren't eating enough n u may even have to train yourself to eat more. Let alone eat right. Then n only then look at ur options.

N did I hear someone say. They did a few different compounds n was crap. Then did one compound n was great. The one compound being Sus. I know it ain't different compounds its different esters. But that deeeeefffo don't make it "better". Only the actual quality. Yous still likely have to move onto other compounds eventually as just a mix of 4 varying esters of the same compound while good as a base for may 5-6 cycles the aromatization if u simply kept upping the dose without upping ai would be through the roof. I'm pure test e as a base myself. But prefer to switch with deca n other such compounds.

[Red Bastard]

At the risk o getting flamed ( don't worry, I've got thick skin ), I'll chime in again...

Sure, eating better, and working out more, is always good, but... The truth is, especially if the OP really is 37, eating well, working out, AND taking a moderate dose of Test will work wonders!! Keep eating well, post cycle, and those gains are easily keepable. Especially if one is below ones genetic potential.

Now, people will jump in and say "but, he doesn't need AAS, at this time"... Sure, but NO ONE needs AAS!! I would guess that only one in one thousand people, that "juice", actually make money by the addition of steroids to their lives. So, why do it? Because we are adults, who choose to, because we can.

So, Psu fsu, read everything here. Learn. Be smart. Have your chosen AI, and your PCT, on hand, before you start. Keep it simple, with a long ester test, and nothing else. Eat lots of clean foods, train like crazy, and you will be blown away by how much you will gain!

[AlinSR]

At the risk o getting flamed ( don't worry, I've got thick skin ), I'll chime in again...

Sure, eating better, and working out more, is always good, but... The truth is, especially if the OP really is 37, eating well, working out, AND taking a moderate dose of Test will work wonders!! Keep eating well, post cycle, and those gains are easily keepable. Especially if one is below ones genetic potential.

Now, people will jump in and say "but, he doesn't need AAS, at this time"... Sure, but NO ONE needs AAS!! I would guess that only one in one thousand people, that "juice", actually make money by the addition of steroids to their lives. So, why do it? Because we are adults, who choose to, because we can.

So, Psu fsu, read everything here. Learn. Be smart. Have your chosen AI, and your PCT, on hand, before you start. Keep it simple, with a long ester test, and nothing else. Eat lots of clean foods, train like crazy, and you will be blown away by how much you will gain!

Good post.