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    Bulk diet: comments?

    Stats:
    6'6"
    225#
    12.8% BF
    27 Y/O

    Just finished coming off from cutting a month ago and have been moving toward bulking.

    My Macro goals:
    (Feel free to critique)
    70g FAT
    450g CARBS
    300g+ PRO

    Foods to reach those macro levels include:

    Carbs:
    Sprouted whole grain breads
    Sweet potatoes
    'Real' Whole grain pasta
    Dry original rolled oats (sometimes with a lil cin)
    Greek Yogurt with fresh berries (rasp, blu, black)
    Granola
    Bananas (for sucrose PWO)
    Apples (for sucrose PWO)

    Fats:
    Sunflower seed butter
    Almond butter
    Peanut butter
    Eggs
    Flaxseed oil
    Olive oil

    Proteins:
    Greek Yogurt
    Chicken (breast meat grilled no salt)
    Mahi
    Flank steak
    Shrimp
    Egg whites
    Whey Protein (PWO)
    Casein Protein (B4 bed)

    -5 meals a day or steady "grazing" all day.
    -All macros met and not surplus/deficit by >5%
    (Except for protein; Min. 300g, period).
    -No fats in meals that are immediately pre and post WO.

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    What's your TDEE? Why no fats pre and post workout?

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    Mifflin-St Jeor TDEE calc is 3093

    No fats pre/post because of fats ability to slow down digestions; limiting how much and how quickly carbs and pros are getting absorbed into the body during the critical time post workout. For example, after a cardio workout and glycogen levels are down, its important to restore those levels ASAP, Since fats slow digestion and therefor slow Carb absorption, glycogen levels may not be restored as quickly as desired and/or required. Same goes for protein after a resistance workout.

    Same is true for preworkout. We want our muscles to be fed during the gym session. Fat, given its known characteristic, will slow our pre WO meal's digestion; causing workouts to be under-fed and/or working out with undigested food in the stomach.

    Anyway, that's what some pro BBs have told me and it makes sense to me. So I have adopted it into my diet.

    Please feel free to speak in support or contrary to that. This is why I posted the thread. If I had it all figured out, I wouldn't be on here ;-)

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    since some here use the Harris-Benedict Calc

    H-B TDEE Calc: 3317

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyjetcptn View Post
    Mifflin-St Jeor TDEE calc is 3093

    No fats pre/post because of fats ability to slow down digestions; limiting how much and how quickly carbs and pros are getting absorbed into the body during the critical time post workout. For example, after a cardio workout and glycogen levels are down, its important to restore those levels ASAP, Since fats slow digestion and therefor slow Carb absorption, glycogen levels may not be restored as quickly as desired and/or required. Same goes for protein after a resistance workout.

    Same is true for preworkout. We want our muscles to be fed during the gym session. Fat, given its known characteristic, will slow our pre WO meal's digestion; causing workouts to be under-fed and/or working out with undigested food in the stomach.

    Anyway, that's what some pro BBs have told me and it makes sense to me. So I have adopted it into my diet.

    Please feel free to speak in support or contrary to that. This is why I posted the thread. If I had it all figured out, I wouldn't be on here ;-)
    Do you know how long it takes to fully deplete glycogen? A weightlifting workout and 45min of cardio is not enough to deplete glycogen.

    Do you know the benefits of immediate restoration of glycogen stores for non-endurance athletes or those only training once a day? None.

    Did you know a typical balanced meal takes 4-6hrs or longer to fully digest? So if you're eating 5x/day you're always going to have good waiting to be absorbed and digested wether or not you leave fats out pre and post workout.

    Did you know protein slows digestion rates of food intake? Would you not eat protein pre or post workout bc it does the same thing as fats do in this context?

    Did you know their is no optimal window or window of importance or no critical time? Protein synthesis and assimilation is elevated for up to 24hrs post workout so why limit yourself to a ~30min-1hr 'window'?

    Did you know you don't need to feed your muscles pre workout? IF and warrior diet lifters often train fasted with outstanding results.

    Did you know pro Bb'ers are some of the worst sources of information regarding training, diet and AAS? Why would you listen to them when science routinely contradicts them?
    Last edited by Docd187123; 10-18-2013 at 02:58 PM.

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