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    KICK START WITH PROP question... and PCT

    hi guys. been lurking for info for sometime. unlike most people on these forums i try to research all your great info and get the best consensus of an answer. im looking to start with test prop and go to test E. i know its not "front loading" so i said kick start. i cant find what im looking for so i'll pop out what im guessing and looking to hear right, wrong, suggestions...

    i'll give them stats even though they really dont pertain to my questioning

    31 years old, 6'0" 205 lbs. 11%bf, training since teenager, 4th cycle

    week 1-3: 300mg test prop
    week 2-12: 500mg test E (over lapping weeks 2+3 with prop and E. is this correct?)
    week 1-14: hcg 250 iu x2 week (test E ester runs out 14 days after last inj. hcg up until then/ pct right?)
    week 1-pct: letro .5mg
    PCT: clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20

    if i ran winstrol for last 4 weeks, PCT start is 14 days after last test E inj, winstrol is 24 hrs. if i discontinued both at the same time would i just wait 14 days to start PCT?

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    First Letro is not used during pct. Its used as an AI and I dont suggest it although you should use an AI such as Adex or Aromasine on cycle.

    Next. I prefer to start the prop at the same dose as I'm going to run my long ester for but you have the general concep

    Nevermind, I just read the letro part again. Sorry I misunderstood. Still dont prefer it.

    Yes on the HCG.
    Last edited by Lunk1; 01-10-2014 at 09:29 PM.

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    Forget thr letro and get a different ai for use on cycle.
    Is this your first cycle?
    And as,lunk said start test e and prop same time
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    Forget thr letro and get a different ai for use on cycle.
    Is this your first cycle?
    And as,lunk said start test e and prop same time
    i appreciate the replies, no, this is my 4th cycle. last two i ran prop all the way through and my first was a test E only. i've read about letro being a very potent at suppressing estrogen. up to 98% at minimal dose and i also understand that you do not want all your estrogen suppressed. i've run it for all of my cycles with no problem. great gains and maintained them but, i threw that in there to get your take on it, whether it be the general consensus that gets regurgitated on the boards or if anyone had personal experience with it. i am quite prone to acne while on cycle

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    i will get aromasin and run at 10mg e/d if that would be better

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    ok, think im sold on aromasin. read how its the only AI to boost IGF-1.

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    if you used letro before and know how to control yuor estrogen with it thats fine. Its easy to overdue it with letro, and i never needed anything that strong to control my estrogen
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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