2100mg Test + 600mg EQ log

[jackjackson]

Its been awhile since I have posted on here but here is where I learned alot years ago.
Since then I have competed in many bodybuilding shows, used gurus, coaches etc, some big names.
I am looking to finally take a solid year off and focus on size for NPC nationals 2015 and wanted to share my cycle.

Current Stats 5'7 200lbs 10%bf



Cycle has started and is outlined below, not a fan of deca, npp or Tren E aka asshole mode
Keep in mind I have done over 10+ cycles and lots of compounds.
This Cycle i preferred to keep simple and not have alot of compounds


NOTE: My gear is not made with a shitload of BA and is smooth which is why I stuck with my source unlike other sources who use more than the standard 2%. All My gear is warmed in the vials before shot via hot water. This allows me to shoot smoothly and my gear doesnt lump up or burn because my gear has no BA.

Cycle Overview Weekly for 16 - 20 weeks x 2 this year

Test Cyp 6ml per wk 1500mg x 20wks = 30000mg = (2500mg a vial) = 12 vials
Test Prop 6ml per wk 600mg x 20wks = 12000mg = (1000mg a vial) = 12 vials
EQ 3ml per wk 600mg x 20wks = 12000mg = (2000mg a vial) = 6 vials
HGH on hand, for now letting IGF1-LR3 work it. HGH will be 6iu PostWO if so


5ml per shot -
Mon- Left Glute 5ml ( 2ml Test Cyp, 2ml Test Prop, 1ml EQ)
Wen - Left Delt 2.5ml then right delt 2.5ml ( 2ml Test Cyp, 2ml Test Prop, 1ml EQ)
Fri- Right Glute 5ml ( 2ml Test Cyp, 2ml Test Prop, 1ml EQ)

Glutes 23g 1 1/2" needle
Delts 25g 1" needle
Terumo Luer lock 5ml syringe

1. 15iu slin (Apidra Fast acting) - 5iu wake, 5iu pre, 5iu post ( I keep a BG kit on me and honey on hand just incase), Keeping fats away from slin injection times. Keeping slin at 5iu for now and will up as needed.
2. IGF-LR3 - 40mcg PostWO
3. GHRP-6 - 250mcg x 2 ED 30 mins before meals
4. Adex 1mg - Mon, Wen, Fri - trying to keep it at a min even with 2g of test
5. Baby Aspirin 81mg ED to assist with increased RBC and will also be donating a pint of blood per month if needed if RBC rises to much via signs of issues
6. Vitamin C 1000mg - ED at wakeup and PostWO
7. Accutane 30mg - On hand as needed
8. Finasteride 1mg EOD - 0.5mg in am, 0.5mg in pm
9. Xanax 0.5mg - Everynight for deep rem sleep only

Also doing cardio ED for 20 minutes to rev metabolism up, keep it lean not a sloppy bulk, and to also provide oxygen to my cells with the RBC increased count.
Diet is below, Trying to keep whole foods as much as possible but with the slin I need fast protein and carbs to be shuttled and feed the muscles
Training day

6:30am - Pre-cardio Meal 1
Shake 1 serving ISO-100 25g pro (5g Bcaa, 5g Glutamine, 5g L-Arginine)

Cardio 20 mins 65% HR on treadmill on incline

7:10am- Post cardio Meal 1
5iu slin
Shake 1 serving ISO-100 25g pro (5g Bcaa, 5g Glutamine, 5g L-Arginine)
3oz cream of wheat (dry weight not cooked)

8:00am Meal 2
16oz egg whites with spinach
1/2 cup steel cut oats ( measured dry, 1 serving of steel cut is 27g carbs) 54g carbs
10g Whole Psyllium husk
1 serving Anavite
1 serving Liv52

11am 250mcg GHRP-6
11:30am Meal 3

5oz Chicken Breast
1/2 cup Fiber one
1oz almonds

3:00pm Meal 4
5oz Chicken Breast
1/2 cup Fiber one

5:00pm - Pre-Workout meal 5
5iu slin
Shake 1 serving ISO-100 25g pro (5g Bcaa, 5g Glutamine, 5g L-Arginine)
1 serving Karbolyn 50g carb or 3oz cream of wheat (dry weight not cooked)

5:30 Train

5:45pm - Intra workout Meal 6
Shake 1 serving ISO-100 25g pro (5g Bcaa, 5g Glutamine, 5g L-Arginine)
1 serving Karbolyn 50g carb

6:30pm - Post-Workout Meal 7
5iu slin
40mcg IGF1-LR3
Shake 2 serving ISO-100 50g pro (5g Bcaa, 5g Glutamine, 5g L-Arginine)
1 serving Karbolyn 50g carb

8pm 250mcg GHRP-6
8:30pm - Last meal before bed Meal 8
10g Whole Psyllium husk
7oz Chicken Breast
11oz red potato
2oz almonds
1 serving Liv52

3100 Calories
343g protein (40%)
320g carbs (40%)
80g fat (20%)

Rest is the same +1 chicken meal but half the carbs and less shakes and 5iu slin on wakeup only

Short of adding a shake in middle of night when i wake up and piss, I will adjust diet as metabolism increases vs just throwing 400g carb 400g pro and like 130g fat.

Trying to keep this clean and so far its been a week and im leaner already.
**** that was alot to write, I will add more if I remember.

[Cuz]

interesting, nice to see a competitor share his stuff. im signed up.

[king6 II]

I like your diet layout....I might have to steal it.

[ironbeck]

How often do you plan on updating this thread? Often I hope, it would be nice, we have not had to many full logs in a while

[Metalject]

Why are you holding off on the HGH now, what's the reasoning? And why 6iu, is that a standard amount for you? I ask because I could never really tell much of a difference between say 4-6iu so I would either stick with 4 to help save money or just run 5 out of convenience. Anyway, just curious.

[kelkel]

Nice write up. Update the thread occasionally with your progress please.

[APM]

I will be following as well, glad you took the time to post it...

[sawyer86]

Very informative thread. Great shape, looking forward to folowing this.

[jackjackson]

Thanks all. This is where it all started for me with the vets helping me out and reading and constantly learning.

I will update daily or EOD.

So far its been a week plus and haven't noticed much but I will give the prop till week 2 and test Cyp/EQ till week 6.
Im fairly vascular even in the offseason, so one thing i look for is my vains to be bigger due to the RBC count increase.

The HGH im waiting for honestly is because I need about 5-6 kits, not cheap as you know.
I have 1 but prefer to have it all, the amount is simply because "want to grow and give my body as much as it needs"
I am open to ideas here not closed minded, I could run 4iu.
I am trying to also not run HGH or IGF not near my slin times as it will not be as strong, kinda hard with slin 3 times a day and peptides that mimic HGH naturally and then synthetic, but I would still love to saturate my cells with slin and nutrients rather than just raise hgh.
Would also prefer not to HGH at night due to bodys natural response.

[Trevtrev]

Signed up.

which fiber one product you are using?

[Bonaparte]

If size is what you're after, why are you using EQ?

[jackjackson]

Signed up.

which fiber one product you are using?

Using "Now Whole Psyllium husks" not just Psyllium husk but "Whole" 2 servings (10g) 1 in am with meal 2 and 2 servings (10g) before bed.
Makes a huge difference when it comes times to push it out also enhances nutrient absorption also feels nice to not walk around feeling bloated

[Cuz]

how much of a break are you taking between cycles?

[jackjackson]

If size is what you're after, why are you using EQ?

Let me start by listing my compound experience, I am NOT a fan of orals.
Only ran orals as per my show prep coaches, but never will I run them again as of 2014

Test E
Test C
Test P
Tren A - Great for precontest turns you into a raging androgen bomb from exp
Tren E - turns you into a raging androgen bomb from exp
Deca - Don't like all that bloat and side effects even when test is double the base deca dose, works well for joints
NPP - Same as deca just quicker
EQ - Smooth and no sides really besides RBC raising
Primo - Great for precontest, Thick as **** when shooting and expensive and hard to find legit sources
Masteron - Great for pre contest and giving that grainy look
Proviron - Great for precontest
Winny - Precontest but gave some of my joints issues
Halo - Harsh on live and turns you into an asshole
Anadrol-
Anavar - very mild and minimal sides
Clen - works well in 20-40mcg doses, not 100mcg+ doses at once unless you like jitters
T3 - Great but need to watch doses
T4 -
Insulin Humulin R (long Acting) and Apridra (fast acting)
IGF1-LR3
GHRP-6
HGH -
Lasix - worst ever, never run no way to fill out muscles 24-48 hrs before a show, leaves muscles flat pulls to much
Dyazide - works great potassium sparing
Potassium loading - Works well but is alot of work every hour with water and doses
Adex -
NOlva -
Clomid -
Exemestane -
HCG -


All that being said I know what works well for me and also would like a comfy/Quality of life offseason and not have issues with deca or being on edge 24/7 and snapping at people.

[jackjackson]

how much of a break are you taking between cycles?

In the past normally 2 months when bloodwork is normal
FSH and LH levels are back
Test levels are above 500
RBC is down a bit
Hemocrit is low
ALT/AST levels are in the normal range
and a few more test

With my current plan I will try 2 months or 1 month off as I have about 2 more cycles before the show 1 more bulk and 1 precontest starting at 20 weeks out

[Bonaparte]

So you haven't tried Dbol or Drol?
I've never tried Drol (too many common sides), but injectable Dbol is amazing for bulking.
Hell, even Var contributes more than EQ, IMO.

[jackjackson]

I've ran adrol before actually, not dbol
Updated my list.

Not doing any orals honestly with this cycle

[jackjackson]

1-13-2014
Sex drive is up as of today.
Nothing really interesting to report as of yet actually getting leaner so far

[jackjackson]

1-14-2014 -Today

1-2-2014 Cycle started

Weight is up this morn by about 3-4 pounds
When cycle started was 200 and leaned out to around 195 1/2
Woke up at 199 today and abs are losing a lil visibility but due to water retention which is expected and not an issue.
Sure it due to the gear and also all the glycogen I am able to jam in there with SLIN, so muscles are fuller with H2O and holding more hydration.
Always hydrate your cells!

Safe to safe the prop is kicking in, Diet has stayed the same, I will not change it until my body tells me to.
Also adding Finasteride at 1mg EOD dosed at 0.5mg in the am and 0.5mg in pm due to half life, overtime since I started doing shows I've noticed my hair is not as thick as it was years ago. Esp with my last contest cycle heavily DHT based.

[BigBen86]

This is great thank you... subbed

[bass]

In the past normally 2 months when bloodwork is normal
FSH and LH levels are back
Test levels are above 500
RBC is down a bit
Hemocrit is low
ALT/AST levels are in the normal range
and a few more test

With my current plan I will try 2 months or 1 month off as I have about 2 more cycles before the show 1 more bulk and 1 precontest starting at 20 weeks out

and that's how it should be. nice work Jack!

[JoGib14]

Nice thread bro....keep it going. It would be great if you could perhaps post a progress picture or two every now and then.

[jackjackson]

Nice thread bro....keep it going. It would be great if you could perhaps post a progress picture or two every now and then.

Thanks I will

Started the GHRP-6 today.
Also on a sidenote the GHRP-6 is started making me sleepy in like 2-3 mins of Sub-Q Shot, but this is normal.
Its been about an hour and its not as bad but still a little tired. Also checked my bloodsugar at the time of that feeling and it was 96 so was not blood sugar dropping.

Good read on GHRP-6 from the gov
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10336729

Effects of growth hormone-releasing peptide-6 on the nocturnal secretion of GH, ACTH and cortisol and on the sleep EEG in man: role of routes of administration.

Frieboes RM, Murck H, Antonijevic IA, Steiger A.
Author information



Abstract

After repeated intravenous (i.v.) boluses of growth hormone-releasing peptide-6 (GHRP-6) we found recently increases of growth hormone (GH), corticotropin (ACTH) and cortisol levels and of the amount of stage 2 sleep. In clinical use, oral (p.o.), intranasal (i.n.) and sublingual (s.l.) routes of administration have advantages over i.v. administration. We compared the sleep-endocrine effects of 300 microg/kg of body weight (b.w.) GHRP-6 in enteric-coated capsules given p.o. at 21.00 h and of 30 microg/kg GHRP-6 i.n. or 30 microg/kg GHRP-6 sl. given at 22.45 h in normal young male controls with placebo conditions. After GHRP-6 p.o. secretion of GH, ACTH and cortisol remained unchanged. The only effect of GHRP-6 s.l. was a trend toward an increase in GH in the first half of the night. GHRP-6 i.n. prompted a significant increase in GH concentration during the total night and a trend toward an increase in ACTH secretion during the first half of the night, whereas cortisol secretion remained unchanged. Furthermore, after GHRP-6 i.n., sleep stage 2 increased in the second half of the night by trend, and spectral analysis of total night non-rapid eye movement (REM) sleep revealed a decrease of delta power by trend. In contrast sleep stage 2 decreased during the second half of the night after GHRP-6 p.o. Our data demonstrate that GHRP-6 is capable of modulating GH and ACTH secretion as well as sleep. However, the effects depend upon dosage, duration and route of administration.

Starting certain things on there own to make sure I notice the small effects vs starting everything at once.
IGF1-LR3 will be added in about 2 days once I get used to the GHRP sides, but from what I've seen its normal and can expect to have better dreams.
Shit forgot to add i take xanax everynight for deep sleep, I'll update my initial post

Feel like a real drug addict running all this shit :P

[jimmyinkedup]

Damn Jack good to see you around! I remember when you carried your BG meter around all day and took readings etc. Hell you even took one after chewing sugar free gum if i recall! lol
You have come a long way bro! congrats on the progress and best of luck with your future!

[jackjackson]

Damn Jack good to see you around! I remember when you carried your BG meter around all day and took readings etc. Hell you even took one after chewing sugar free gum if i recall! lol
You have come a long way bro! congrats on the progress and best of luck with your future!

Ahh long time no see!
Yes thanks, well we are masters of our own bodies.
Yeah sugar free gum made it rise from 70 ish i believe to 120 after 3 sticks of sugar free.
Good to see some old vets still around

[jackjackson]

1-15-2014

Weight is still up at 199 upon wake up after bathroom 1 & 2
Strength was defiantly up last night, had some deep rem sleep with dreams and woke up feeling refreshed.
Took GHRP-6 after last meal.

Abs still visible, will post pic

[DAAS]

this may have been asked already but do you think you're even using all 2,100 mg? Why 2,100? and not something like a gram?

[jackjackson]

this may have been asked already but do you think you're even using all 2,100 mg? Why 2,100? and not something like a gram?

I've ran 1250mg of test before so this is a stepping stone and would like to see how my body responds when given all this and a clean diet.

Not all but I am looking for some big changes come weeks 5-7 honestly.
If sides get bad or to much I will cut back to 1.5g of Test C, by then prop and cyp are in effect.


Not that I am trying to turn pro, Not a "pro card" hunter, but this isn't far off from the IFBB pros if you've ever seen there crap running like over 6g of gear. I am not a pro but I wanna see if there is really a difference, I know the bro-science just putting this to real life to see what it produces.

Not to mention this will probably be my last 3 cycles and I call it quits as I have other plans down the road.

[jackjackson]

1-16-2014

Rest day yesterday
On rest days I only do slin at wakeup 5iu and replace all shakes at night with whole food meals

Weight is 199.6 today

Took GHRP-6 After my last meal before I went to sleep and notice some good things.
Dreamed once woke up pissed, went back to bed and dreamed again, woke up about 4:45am instead of 6:00am and felt totally refreshed even though I didn't sleep as long as I normally do. Tried to go back to sleep but my body was fully awake and not tired so I just went with it.

So thats a plus for me right there since adding GHRP-6 alone

[jackjackson]

Past 2 days been feeling like edgy/anxiety around 2-5 pm'ish, almost like i felt like on tren a.
Not sure what it is but may be work as I been really busy with alot of my mind or the test prop, skin is starting to get oily.

Will add accutane in 30mg EOD for a few weeks then back off to 2x week

[reporich]

Thats a load of gear! Im following along....

[Java Man]

Really interesting so far and I'm sure it will get more so as it progresses. Thanks for taking the time to log all of this.

[jackjackson]

1-20-2014

Well so far weight has stabilized at about 198 upon wake up.

Gears will stay the same

Upping each slin shot to 6 iu, 3 iu more overall for the day.
Upping chicken meals by 1 oz each for meals 4 and 5
Upping AM cream of wheat from 3 oz to 3.5 oz
Upping potato PWO from 11 oz to 13 oz


New macros are now

Protein: 381G 42%
Carbs: 337G 37%
Fats: 94G 20%

[Cuz]

I feel you on the oily skin I think its runnin off my nose lmao. Keep us updated.
Curious about the accutane sides you might get.

[jackjackson]

I feel you on the oily skin I think its runnin off my nose lmao. Keep us updated.
Curious about the accutane sides you might get.

Accutane works no doubt.
I've ran it before. Never had sides but I know it harsh on the liver so I am doing it as needed with less.
I know some guys who run 90mg of it, I am only doing 30mg F 90
Currently only running 3x a week, Mon Wens and Fri, with probably 1700+mg of test i imagine some oil I have to deal with vs trying to fight it vs pros and cons.

[ironbeck]

Awesome pls keep the updates coming and don't forget about us followers of your thread.

[THE HOGG]

Interesting about the blood sugar going up from sugar free gum. Not so sugar free I guess. Why the insulin? Are you diabetic, or is there another reason?

[jackjackson]

The blood sugar was a test and insulin spiked due to the artificial crap, feel free to try it for yourself, just get a blood glucose meter, strips and gum, Test 5 mins before 10 mins after, look at your levels.

There are plenty of articles on here for insulin and what it does.
Here is a quick video

Why Do Bodybuilders Take Insulin - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrotOPgSkR4

[gearbox]

Why the macro change?

[jackjackson]

1-21-2014

Metabolism is increased.
Weight today was 199.6.
Had to add in another unexpected meal before bed as my metabolism told me to which was 16oz egg whites and 2oz almonds.
Last night defiantly notice strength was up and size was visible as I did chest and bis.

I am a big believe in a nice "Full Controlled Range of motion" and maximum tension on my muscle not slinging 40 pounds more than I can handle with shitty form and sloppy control.

I focus on the squeeze not slamming weight thinking heavy weight will make you big, I've gotten injured doing that bs during my exp.


For instance when I do bicep curls I may do one arm at a time and not left then right etc, that gives your muscle time to rest where as with focusing on one arm and keeping the tension consistent will require more muscle fibers to kick in without the resting effect that alternative curls does.

Yeah I can deadlift 500 but for a few reps with shitty form and risking injury to feed my ego, I rather not.
I prefer to do nice controlled reps.

An injury will shelf me for 3-4 weeks, Playing it safe