very excited. doc just told me hes going to prescribe me trt

[Michael Red]

im 21 and have test of 260. after running every test available my doc said that last and only option is to start TRT. im not nervous... ive been feeling miserable with no libido for years. i cant wait.. im honestly so excited anything i should expect? any problems in the near foreseeable future? i know ill have to do this forever, but theres nothing else i can do, and ive been to three diff doctors. they all agree i need TRT. so im very excited... maybe some words from pros who have done this before? i cant tell you how excited i am (i know i shouldnt expect a miracle but honestly i finally have an answer to my problem)

im going to use test injections because theyre the cheapest i heard. is there any hardcore problems injecting yourself? ill figure it out im sure...

if anybody has personal stories or anyting thatd be nice.. i know there are Read-Me guides and i've read them. i just want to know more! and i want to talk about it and hear stories. i cant tell you the struggle it's been trying to cure myself!!! no energy, no drive, no libido. it's very draining, especially at my age. but doctors checked pituitary function, thyroid, everything. the last option for them all is trt so even if im only 21, im ready... ive been unexplicably depressed for too long!!!!!

[Novice489]

Congrats man. I'm no pro but I'll share with you what I can. I do have some words of caution. While Low T can cause depression, depression can also lead to Low T. I feel like depression and anxiety are dirty topics here but the fact is they exist and have very real and profound effects on people. Sometimes they have organic origins sometimes they are psychological. If your depression is psychological in nature it will likely persist through HRT. Second, the actual cause of your Low T has not yet been determined. This fact is somewhat concerning, if the original cause is organic and not psychological in nature you could be putting a band-aid on much larger problem.

[kelkel]

Hopefully your doctors were astute.

Checked pituitary function? MRI I assume?
What are your current LH & FSH levels?
Did they check for varicoceles?
Any serious trauma? Head, testical, etc.

I'm happy for you but I'd prefer to see the actual problem located. Kinda bothers me that they can't put a finger toward the issue.

[Michael Red]

Hopefully your doctors were astute.

Checked pituitary function? MRI I assume?
What are your current LH & FSH levels?
Did they check for varicoceles?
Any serious trauma? Head, testical, etc.

I'm happy for you but I'd prefer to see the actual problem located. Kinda bothers me that they can't put a finger toward the issue.

thanks man... and yes they checked ALL of those things. :/
they checked for varicoceles, i answered all those questions, everything. i was hoping they could find a solution, too. but im even related to an endo. and he did everything possible too. so i even had family help. im glad things will improve but, i did try everything i could!

[Beethoven]

Have the Doctors ruled out everything else? Don't get me wrong, trt is great when you are in your fifties like I am. At your age I would try a re start ruling out any other problems. I would really exhaust all my options before I start trt. Trust me, EXHAUST and rule out EVERYTHING else first.

[kelkel]

thanks man... and yes they checked ALL of those things. :/
they checked for varicoceles, i answered all those questions, everything. i was hoping they could find a solution, too. but im even related to an endo. and he did everything possible too. so i even had family help. im glad things will improve but, i did try everything i could!

It sounds like you did. One last thought would be to take the time to visit someone like Crisler, Shippen, etc and let one of the industry experts have a look. You're young, it's worth it. I could not imagine 60 years of TRT.

Good luck Michael.

[Michael Red]

Congrats man. I'm no pro but I'll share with you what I can. I do have some words of caution. While Low T can cause depression, depression can also lead to Low T. I feel like depression and anxiety are dirty topics here but the fact is they exist and have very real and profound effects on people. Sometimes they have organic origins sometimes they are psychological. If your depression is psychological in nature it will likely persist through HRT. Second, the actual cause of your Low T has not yet been determined. This fact is somewhat concerning, if the original cause is organic and not psychological in nature you could be putting a band-aid on much larger problem.

i know. i just dont know what else to do. i have examined my lh levels, which were normal, my thyroid levels are all fine, my testicles themselves have no problems. according to my own research and three other doctors, this is the next step. :/ it is a little unsettling thye couldnt find WHY. but... idk. im trying 2 focus on the positive, because there is so much positive. ive been through hell and back trying 2 solve this. and my depression will hopefully subside. i used 2 have it really bad. but i feel like i dont anymore. i feel as though my depression doesnt exist in my mind anymore - im literally VERY happy with how my personal and professional life is going. everything is great! its just my body doesnt feel good, and its a drain on my existence. im just focusing on the happy stuff and the possibilities of enjoying my life again... i just feel too damn good!!!

[Novice489]

Sounds like you've done your homework and ran down all the options. I have my fingers crossed for you. I hope it works out!

[Michael Red]

Have the Doctors ruled out everything else? Don't get me wrong, trt is great when you are in your fifties like I am. At your age I would try a re start ruling out any other problems. I would really exhaust all my options before I start trt. Trust me, EXHAUST and rule out EVERYTHING else first.

i will bring a restart up to the endo when i see him next week. i will also call my endo uncle and ask him.

but.. why is everyone saying to be cautious of having to do it for the next 60 yrs? is it THAT bad? :/

[kelkel]

i will bring a restart up to the endo when i see him next week. i will also call my endo uncle and ask him.

but.. why is everyone saying to be cautious of having to do it for the next 60 yrs? is it THAT bad? :/

It can be a life saver. I just could not imagine doing it for such a long time. Especially if in the back of your mind is the thought that the problem was still missed. Fortunately Aveed was just approved and should be considered if you embark on TRT. Look into it Michael. It has about a 90 day half-life.

[Beethoven]

i will bring a restart up to the endo when i see him next week. i will also call my endo uncle and ask him.

but.. why is everyone saying to be cautious of having to do it for the next 60 yrs? is it THAT bad? :/

Like anything else, meds have their side effects and draw backs. You have to always be monitoring your BW, maybe taking other meds to counter side effects from test. Now this is all manageable and will definitely make a difference in your life, but, if you can get your body to do it naturally instead of injecting your self several times a week, why wouldn't you. Now on the other hand if there's nothing else and a restart attempt or two don't work, trt will definitely make your quality of life way better. There is another thread with a fellow member like you in his early twenties attempting a re start after being on trt for a year. You should read that and maybe talk to him. Good luck and welcome.

[Michael Red]

It can be a life saver. I just could not imagine doing it for such a long time. Especially if in the back of your mind is the thought that the problem was still missed. Fortunately Aveed was just approved and should be considered if you embark on TRT. Look into it Michael.

thank you so much... wow i came to the right place... im looking into it now, and will also ask my doctors about it. i found a PDF file 144 pages long on it by the FDA, and am reading. THANK U!

[kelkel]

You're welcome. There's a handful of guys here from across the pond who love it. There are some threads here that you can search up as well that cite personal experience. I believe it's an initial large shot (4ml) then a booster in about 6 weeks, then every 10 weeks or so for maintenance. If memory serves me....

Link me with that file please.

[Michael Red]

Like anything else, m*s have their side effects and draw backs. You have to always be monitoring your BW, maybe taking other m*ds to counter side effects from test. Now this is all manageable and will definitely make a difference in your life, but, if you can get your body to do it naturally instead of injecting your self several times a week, why wouldn't you. Now on the other hand if there's nothing else and a restart attempt or two don't work, trt will definitely make your quality of life way better. There is another thread with a fellow member like you in his early twenties attempting a re start after being on trt for a year. You should read that and maybe talk to him. Good luck and welcome.

Thank you!!! I will try it! I'm so close to the finish line!!! If this works or doesn't work, that's okay, I just know that this particular struggle is almost over.

You're welcome. There's a handful of guys here from across the pond who love it. There are some threads here that you can search up as well that cite personal experience. I believe it's an initial large shot (4ml) then a booster in about 6 weeks, then every 10 weeks or so for maintenance. If memory serves me....

Link me with that file please.

i will definitely go to see their stories!!! i hope my endo will give me AVEED... it almost sounds too good to be true... trying not to get my hopes up... but, it sounds so good!

and i have less than 25 posts so im not allowed to post links on the forum, lol... i will pm you!

[dreadnok89]

Hey Michael, the problem I been having is what happens if your doctor just stops prescribing because your levels are good? Its happen to me a couple times and its beyond frustrating. The trt will totally help depression and put your body in a better place for sure. I read all the responses but I'm slow, have you ever used steroids before and not restarted? If so you should really go the restart way. At 21 it would be a pity not to try

[17chester6]

but.. why is everyone saying to be cautious of having to do it for the next 60 yrs? is it THAT bad? :/

It's not that it's bad but there is the elephant in the room: why are your levels so low and is the depression secondary to the low T or is there another reason.

Be that as it may, you ask for personal experience and I am not shy and I'm happy to share. I'm 59, 6' 2" and 180 pounds and healthy, no medical problems and I was taking no medications. I had no gains in the gym, an over active bladder, while not depressed I was "moody" and the old libido and erections were so-so. My total T was low and free T below normal. The rest of the blood profile was great.
I started off on testosterone injections twice weekly and for the first two weeks felt like a million bucks. Then that disappeared and I felt just "normal", which is OK. The libido was good and I added daily 5 mg liquid Cia (Cialis) and lets just say "holy crap, that's might fine!". Then the testes started to shrink so I started HCG injections. Then the estrogen went up and I had severe water retention with my legs like an old man and my jeans would not fit. So I started an AI and that is much better but I still have intermittent mild water retention in my legs.
So I went from taking no medications to injecting two medications (I hate the injections, esp the testosterone) and taking two oral medications. I resent taking medications as it makes me think "old and sick" (hey, that's my reality!). However, I feel better such that I continue to use the medications though I loath the injections. The best part is the better mood, the normal bladder function (no urinary urgency), good gains in the gym (I'm no Arnold but max bench 205 pounds and dead lift 320) and the better libido and incredible feeling of being like a teenager again in regards to sex . Some weeks I am on top of the world and other weeks I feel blah and that is likely just a normal life cycle and not the TRT.
So TRT is not a panacea, but it has the potential to improve one's quality of life. The lesson I learnt was to take it slowly, to start low on dosages, do blood work after 4 to 6 weeks (you have to be patient) and then to make adjustments. Go one step at a time.
Best of luck to you!

[Metalject]

I agree that there's no reason to start TRT if you don't need it but I've yet to understand the worry about being on it if you do. We're honestly talking about something that takes a grand total of 60 seconds of your life away per week, and that's assuming you're injecting testosterone twice a week.

Anyway, that's just my opinion...maybe there's something I'm not considering that others do. It's just never really affected my life to where I think how nice it would be if I didn't have to do it.

[slates]

Is this a troll? You're "excited" that your doctor prescribed TRT at 21? Trust me, after a few months, the excitement will wear off, and you'll be doing everything you can to get off TRT.

Have you even tried Clomid? Or HCG? Or low dose Arimidex? I would bet anything that Clomid and a very low dose of Arimidex (.25/wk) would put your T above 600.

[slfmade]

Is this a troll? You're "excited" that your doctor prescribed TRT at 21? Trust me, after a few months, the excitement will wear off, and you'll be doing everything you can to get off TRT.

Have you even tried Clomid? Or HCG? Or low dose Arimidex? I would bet anything that Clomid and a very low dose of Arimidex (.25/wk) would put your T above 600.

You might be going a little overboard with the troll comment. I agree that TRT isn't as good of an option as naturally having good hormone levels. But I would be excited too if I felt like shit everyday and was now being told that I wasn't gonna feel like that anymore.

[Beethoven]

You might be going a little overboard with the troll comment. I agree that TRT isn't as good of an option as naturally having good hormone levels. But I would be excited too if I felt like shit everyday and was now being told that I wasn't gonna feel like that anymore.

As much as I would not like to be on it at 21, that said if all else was exhausted and were talking about quality of life, yeah. But I definitely don't think it's a troll. If you've been low t long enough you're exited about the new times to come. But I think any one of us given the chance to be natural again over trt would jump at it. I definitely would. That's all, the shots don't bother me or any of that. But I would rather not have to take any meds for that matter. And at 21, libido on the ground floor I would be exited, too. After all, trt has made a positive change in my life.

[slates]

You might be going a little overboard with the troll comment. I agree that TRT isn't as good of an option as naturally having good hormone levels. But I would be excited too if I felt like shit everyday and was now being told that I wasn't gonna feel like that anymore.

I feel like the OP is pushing our buttons. He is saying exactly what this forum has preached not to do. I also find it impossible to believe that three separate doctors would recommend TRT for a 21-year-old, without even considering the numerous options to increase his natural production (which are virtually guaranteed to work in a 21-year-old with no apparent testicular damage). I actually that think most endos would tell him to just live with a level of 260 rather than give a 21-year-old exogenous testosterone.

[slfmade]

I feel like the OP is pushing our buttons. He is saying exactly what this forum has preached not to do. I also find it impossible to believe that three separate doctors would recommend TRT for a 21-year-old, without even considering the numerous options to increase his natural production (which are virtually guaranteed to work in a 21-year-old with no apparent testicular damage). I actually that think most endos would tell him to just live with a level of 260 rather than give a 21-year-old exogenous testosterone.

And what is that?

[Michael Red]

Hello. Thanks for defending me my friends. This is a very potentially devastating, but also potentially thrilling thing that's about to happen to me. I come here asking questions and attempting to allow myself to feel positivity about the situation that I'm in. I don't know why someone decided to enter and question everything that I relayed in my OP. I didn't fully read his post, I realize I'm only 21 and am walking a very fine line of being crushed by this outcome I'm having to face, or letting myself choose to be happy. This is the only place I've discussed my medical problems with anyone outside of my doctors and my family. I feel as though this is a safe environment for me to express my concerns and ask questions. That's all.

[Michael Red]

Is this a troll? You're "excited" that your doctor prescribed TRT at 21? Trust me, after a few months, the excitement will wear off, and you'll be doing everything you can to get off TRT.

Have you even tried Clomid? Or HCG? Or low dose Arimidex? I would bet anything that Clomid and a very low dose of Arimidex (.25/wk) would put your T above 600.

I'm not aware as to why you ask these things condescendingly. I'm open to advice... I will ask my endo his opinion on a restart.

But no, I will not trust you on your opinion of what my emotional outcome will be. I will control how I feel about my life. YOUR personal reality is not mine.

And of course I would prefer to live not having to do this. But I've exhausted almost everything.