Tren cycle question

[spiderman87]

Looking at a new cycle. Been running gear for 6 years. I'm 27, 5'10 and weigh 198 at 15% BF.
Previous cycles were mainly simple, test based. Some EQ cycles, some deca ect. Highest cycle was 500mg test e with 400mg deca/week. Always use proper pct

I'm looking at:
Test Prop- 200mg for 8 weeks
Tren Ace- 300mg for 8 weeks
I'm not a clomid fan so I only use Nolva for pct T 40/40/20/20.

My main thing I can't decide on is running caber or adex while on cycle...Some tell me only caber. Some tell me adex is fine.

Thought?
Much appreciated

[roadglide83]

I'm assuming you mean tren ace since the headline says tren question?

[spiderman87]

Yes. Sorry, it's fixed now. Thanks

[tice1212]

Looking at a new cycle. Been running gear for 6 years. I'm 27, 5'10 and weigh 198 at 15% BF.
Previous cycles were mainly simple, test based. Some EQ cycles, some deca ect. Highest cycle was 500mg test e with 400mg deca/week. Always use proper pct

I'm looking at:
Test Prop- 200mg for 8 weeks
Tren Ace- 300mg for 8 weeks
I'm not a clomid fan so I only use Nolva for pct T 40/40/20/20.

My main thing I can't decide on is running caber or adex while on cycle...Some tell me only caber. Some tell me adex is fine.

Thought?
Much appreciated

Wait bro! U have been running cycles for 6yrs and ur only 198lbs @ 15%bf @ 5'10. Their is something wrong either ur gear is garbage or ur diet is garbage.... Sorry bro U need to check out the nutritional section before u run anymore gear.

[spiderman87]

Meaning my first cycle was 6 years ago. I haven't been running none stop. I've done 3 cycles total. I'm sure I'm off on BF% but I hate seeing people out
Put down 5%. I just came off a winter bulk cycle of test/deca. I started it and was 8% and went from 186 to 211. I've cleaned up diet more and started to lean up. I know nutrition well, it may a minor in college. I will get my actual bf% tomorrow if needed. I'm looking to start the cycle in another 6 weeks or so

[FapOLantern]

You might wanna get some caber for the tren sides, bro, just in case they show up. Adex is for the test only, so you should use both, is my take.

Good call on using ace instead of enanthate.

[tren_monster]

Looking at a new cycle. Been running gear for 6 years. I'm 27, 5'10 and weigh 198 at 15% BF. Previous cycles were mainly simple, test based. Some EQ cycles, some deca ect. Highest cycle was 500mg test e with 400mg deca/week. Always use proper pct I'm looking at: Test Prop- 200mg for 8 weeks Tren Ace- 300mg for 8 weeks I'm not a clomid fan so I only use Nolva for pct T 40/40/20/20. My main thing I can't decide on is running caber or adex while on cycle...Some tell me only caber. Some tell me adex is fine. Thought? Much appreciated

First off you don't run Nolva with a 19NOR. Your BF Is a little high for tren but that's on you. Are your doses in weeks or per pin? You will need both caber or prami to combat the prolactin and you'll need aromasin to kill estro sides from the test. I say aromasin over adex for the fact that it's a suicide inhibitor so there's no chance for rebound and no tapering on the back end.

[Lunk1]

First off you don't run Nolva with a 19NOR. Your BF Is a little high for tren but that's on you. Are your doses in weeks or per pin? You will need both caber or prami to combat the prolactin and you'll need aromasin to kill estro sides from the test. I say aromasin over adex for the fact that it's a suicide inhibitor so there's no chance for rebound and no tapering on the back end.

Can you explain precisely why not?

[tren_monster]

Can you explain precisely why not?

Because tamox will do absolutely nothing with PRL gyno. That's where caber prami or prolactrone come in.

[AD]

Because tamox will do absolutely nothing with PRL gyno. That's where caber prami or prolactrone come in.

op was talking about nolva for pct. not on cycle.

his on-cycle question was whether to use adex or caber or both.

[Lunk1]

Because tamox will do absolutely nothing with PRL gyno. That's where caber prami or prolactrone come in.

Thank you.

[Live for the PUMP]

Why such small doses? This cycle may be "ok" if you don't like your sex drive. lol. Personally I would at least triple that test amount and add mast or proviron. Tren is gonna shut you down good. Your at a good bf to start.

[tren_monster]

Why such small doses? This cycle may be "ok" if you don't like your sex drive. lol. Personally I would at least triple that test amount and add mast or proviron. Tren is gonna shut you down good. Your at a good bf to start.

Why would you tell him to add proviron? With his bf where it's at the only benefits he'll get is the AI effects.

[Live for the PUMP]

Why would you tell him to add proviron? With his bf where it's at the only benefits he'll get is the AI effects.

Read up on proviron. It hardens, utilitzes more of the test you pin, increases sex drive, and is a great synergistic drug. I wouldn't do tren without it or mast. Libido main reason as tren is shutting you down hard. Also this guy is using a toddlers size of test. Even first time beginners should use more test than that.

I don't think 15% is bad at all for a starting point of a cycle. Lots of guys like to keep some extra weight on them for a fuller feel and better strength. Nothing wrong with that.

[tren_monster]

Read up on proviron. It hardens, utilitzes more of the test you pin, increases sex drive, and is a great synergistic drug. I wouldn't do tren without it or mast. Libido main reason as tren is shutting you down hard. Also this guy is using a toddlers size of test. Even first time beginners should use more test than that. I don't think 15% is bad at all for a starting point of a cycle. Lots of guys like to keep some extra weight on them for a fuller feel and better strength. Nothing wrong with that.

I don't know what kind of tren you run but I get horny as can be on tren. I run at 100mg eod. I pick caber over prami cause prami makes me sick as hell.

[Buster Brown]

I think your dosages are a little on the light side especially the tes. I would say 350 of each for the absolute smallest amount but that's me. Hope you plan on running hcg as well.

[AD]

Why such small doses? This cycle may be "ok" if you don't like your sex drive. lol. Personally I would at least triple that test amount and add mast or proviron. Tren is gonna shut you down good. Your at a good bf to start.

I think your dosages are a little on the light side especially the tes. I would say 350 of each for the absolute smallest amount but that's me. Hope you plan on running hcg as well.

op might have read the tren sticky, which talks about using tren with trt dose test.

[Buster Brown]

op might have read the tren sticky, which talks about using tren with trt dose test.

That may be true because he did not specify and if that is the case I still think that it is a tad light.

[spiderman87]

That may be true because he did not specify and if that is the case I still think that it is a tad light.

Exactly what I've been told. Over and over. To run test low just to keep your levels up and to avoid more sides and let the Tren do it's work as it's so much stronger.

[spiderman87]

Wow, i don't know, I may be more confused now. As for the dosage, I think I'm fine. I'm not worried with that part. My main concern is AI and PCT.
I hear to run caber the entire cycle then I hear just keep it on hand.
I hear run nolva pct and no HCG then I hear to take HCG.
I'm not a clomid fan....something with sides of sight loss I stay away from.

Thanks for all the input but of someone would just tell me what's best to run on cycle and what's a good pct that's what I need help on. Just want to do it right

[redz]

The amount of bad information in this thread is concerning.

Dose is fine you do not need more test than tren. Sexual sides come from estrogen or prolactin imbalances. Forget proviron run the adex and keep caber on hand.

Nolva can be run on pct and even with 19 Nors there's usually no problems. Nolva only pct is insufficient especially with tren and hcg would also be wise.

[David LoPan]

Since you a few weeks away from starting your cycle, have you thought about getting blood work done first? And you did not say what your goals were for this cycle?

I have to agree tren monster, tren makes me horny as hell but I sweat like a pig, I guess I dont have that side from it. IMHO, I would always use more test on a cycle than tren but hey that is just me. The higher the dose the higher the muscle building effect.

[redz]

Some dumbass people giving advice here. The higher the dose the higher the muscle building effect? Actually you'll just get more sides and eventually feel like crap. Lower test eliminates a lot of what I thought were tren sides. If you haven't tried it I suggest it.

[Live for the PUMP]

Some dumbass people giving advice here. The higher the dose the higher the muscle building effect? Actually you'll just get more sides and eventually feel like crap. Lower test eliminates a lot of what I thought were tren sides. If you haven't tried it I suggest it.

lol. You might want to be careful who your calling a dumbass as your sentence is bogus. lmao. Just cause that may be true with your body doesn't mean it is true with everyone.

[< <Samson> >]

I dunno wth, but ok


I run test low with tren - I do like 75mg EOD of prop & 125mg if tren ace(you can change the dose, just keep the ratio) there are no issues with this, no ED - straight opposite for 6-7 weeks

Run caber - I tried the prami once & it made me a bit sick feeling - but, I might try it again / Only side I have seen with caber is that I can't nut fast at all

Still run a Ai

All the way through - jump on PCT 3 days after your last shot. Run the clomid, it helps - nolva is not enough after a tren cycle IMO

[redz]

lol. You might want to be careful who your calling a dumbass as your sentence is bogus. lmao. Just cause that may be true with your body doesn't mean it is true with everyone.

no matter who you are it is not linear at a certain point more yields less gains because sides would increase and interfere with workouts, sleep, being able to eat etc.

[Buster Brown]

I think your dosages are a little on the light side especially the tes. I would say 350 of each for the absolute smallest amount but that's me. Hope you plan on running hcg as well.

[qscgugcsq]

Your dosage are fine.
Actually im planning similar soon

Run arimidex or aromasin(it do not matter as long as your e2 is in range)

Have caber or prami on hand(both are fine(people seems to prefer caber))

Run hcg at 250ui twice a week during cycle to prevent atrophy and testicular supression.
Dont use during pct, it supress your testosterone production like steroids.

And nolva alone is probably not enough. Think again about clomid.

On tren your libido is supose to be through the roof, it it doesnt they havent controled there estrogen.
Or their tren is fake as ****.

I agree the amount of bro science given here is awfull...

No matter tbe dose of test you use E2 must be controlled but most seems to have lighter side on low test.

300mg tren is plenty for a first run if you got legit stuff.

If E2 is in check prolactin should not be an issue.

Good luck

[spiderman87]

Thanks guys. I am wanting to SHREAD. I put on good size and strength all winter and I know I will lose some and that's okay. It's why I gained it

What dosage of adex do you suggest?

[Buster Brown]

Really only one way to find out and then you will know. My first go around with tren was 400 mgs a week and as high as 550 mgs a week. Nothing beats first hand experience. I would go with caber if u can. If u have to go with prami , take before bed.