Tren+ EQ cycle

[DanCo]

Any advice to weather this is okay without test

[roadglide83]

Always want a test base with anything. So no.

[Lunk1]

Uhhhhhh....noooooooooo!

[MuscleInk]

Any advice to weather this is okay without test

Shutting down your testosterone and not replacing it with an exogenous source is not a good idea. Testosterone exists in your body for a reason.

Sounds like a bit of reading and more understanding would keep you safe.

[DFRELAT]

I've done it twice with good success but yes it would be more optimal adding a little test in there. Barely had any sides, no water retention, didn't have to use any arimidex just the cabergoline was enough to keep things under control. Managed to cut down very well and even gained strenght while dieting. Tren is no kiddie stuff, it's strong. I think at the time I was at 350 tren E and 700 equipoise a week.

[acetrentura]

Pretty sure if you don't run a test base you're gonna shut down you HPTA. At least run 150mg test

[RangerDanger830]

Yeah definitely throw test in there among other things, ai, serms for pct, and love and affection.

[Docd187123]

Pretty sure if you don't run a test base you're gonna shut down you HPTA. At least run 150mg test

He'd shut it down with the test or without.

[michael30]

Pretty sure if you don't run a test base you're gonna shut down you HPTA. At least run 150mg test

You shut your body down using test also. It just replaces what is being shut down.

[king6 II]

Test is best.

[acetrentura]

You shut your body down using test also. It just replaces what is being shut down.

Oh alright. My understanding is still not that great.

[RangerDanger830]

There's a sticky on here somewhere that talks about why you should always use test in your cycles, that'll give you a good starting point for research. I'd link it here but I'm on my phone and it's a pain.

[DanCo]

Thanks guys, all this help stopped me from making a mistake. Glad to know there is a place like this with solid advice.

[redz]

Have you cycled before?