another shoulder problem

[optionsdude]

OK got mri results back, it's showing a torn labrum and rotator cuff. Looks like I'll be in the same boat as you Bass. Going to try to push it to the first of the year. I can do everything normal accept fly's and press with heavy weight. Oh and over head work is out of the question. So what kind of recovery time am I looking at here? A few weeks? A Few months? I'm I going to be in a sling non-mobile for a while? Any insights or advice from similar shoulder veterans is always appreciated.

Thanks

[jdc91gt]

Bummer. As my ortho doc said, "They don't fix themselves. Not a lot of blood flow there." :-(

I had my right shoulder operated on 7 years ago; torn labrum and not full thickness tear on cuff. I went to work (desk job) the next day. I took pain meds only on day of surgery. After that, I took ibuprofen. I wore a sling for a few days, off and on. As my arm got tired I needed the sling.

I rehabbed hard for several weeks. I started back to a regular lifting routine after 4 months and at 6 months I had more shoulder strength than I had had in the five years prior to the surgery. It seems like a long time looking back on it, but it was not that bad.

FYI, I just had my left shoulder operated on last week. So, I'm in for another rehab.

Best of luck to you!!!

[Times Roman]

broken record here.................

.............suggest looking into TB500

[Times Roman]

..............just remembered you said a previous run at TB didn't give you much relief. You and one other are the only two that has ever claimed no relief. Which is curious to me. So let's just say you had legit, and used the proper dose for the proper length of time. But this is a different injury, is it not? Still suggest another attempt.

So many have written me saying feel so much better now.

[PistolPete33]

broken record here.................

.............suggest looking into TB500

I agree 100%. Maybe schedule the surgery mid Jan if possible and jump on the TB now to try and see if it works? It doesn't work overnight but it works over time.

[Chauffeur]

No peptide is going to fix a torn labrum. The only way to fix a labral tear is through surgery.

Recovery time will be dependent on many factors including your age, pre surgery level of fitness, diet, extent of the tear, PT routine, etc.

A typical recovery will take roughly 6 months, but it may take longer to regain full ROM. Some people can be mostly healed in 4 months, but I wouldn't call that the norm.

Did your doctor give you any information about the size of your labral and RC tears? What type of labral tear do you have? That will definitely make a difference in your recovery.

I'd strongly suggest getting the surgery ASAP. You will likely make the injuries worse by training through them.

[optionsdude]

Thanks everyone for the advice and info. I'm going to another dr (shoulder specialist) for a second opinion as to the amount of damage and what needs to be done. My dr is good but always in a hurry and basically just read the mri report. I tried TB for my tennis elbow TR and it didn't help,as for source I used 2 different sources and tried 2 different rounds. The first was too short according to your protocol so then I used a different companys TB for the next round and noticed no help with either. Chauffeur I would get it done right away but I just got back to work from my knee scope. So I need a knee replacement sometime in the next year or so,got synvisc injections recently so hopefully that'll last me at least 6 months. I'm hoping to get shoulder done the same time as my knee replacement. As for recovery I've got a great physical therapist. I've been back on my strict diet for 2 weeks now and dropping body fat,training for another surgery. LOL! Once again thanks all for your help, as always I appreciate it

[Chauffeur]

Yikes. Recovering from a knee replacement and a shoulder surgery at the same time sounds miserable. I'd probably try to space them out a bit.

Good luck man. My best advice is to make sure that you have a great surgeon. A shoulder specialist with an interest in sports medicine would be preferred. Also, a younger guy who is up to date on surgical techniques would also be a good choice.

[Times Roman]

Thanks everyone for the advice and info. I'm going to another dr (shoulder specialist) for a second opinion as to the amount of damage and what needs to be done. My dr is good but always in a hurry and basically just read the mri report. I tried TB for my tennis elbow TR and it didn't help,as for source I used 2 different sources and tried 2 different rounds. The first was too short according to your protocol so then I used a different companys TB for the next round and noticed no help with either. Chauffeur I would get it done right away but I just got back to work from my knee scope. So I need a knee replacement sometime in the next year or so,got synvisc injections recently so hopefully that'll last me at least 6 months. I'm hoping to get shoulder done the same time as my knee replacement. As for recovery I've got a great physical therapist. I've been back on my strict diet for 2 weeks now and dropping body fat,training for another surgery. LOL! Once again thanks all for your help, as always I appreciate it

not doubting you, but still curious.,..............

[optionsdude]

I know recovering from both might sound miserable but I would rather be down for 6 months than be down twice for 6 months. TR I'm beginning to think my tendonitis might be something more. It's been so damn persistent the last 2 years. I thought for sure everything would get a chance to heal up when I had my knee scoped. Every time I do arms even wearing the bandit it kills me later that day and the next. If I don't wear the bandit it hurts while I'm doing my arm routine

[Chauffeur]

I know recovering from both might sound miserable but I would rather be down for 6 months than be down twice for 6 months. TR I'm beginning to think my tendonitis might be something more. It's been so damn persistent the last 2 years. I thought for sure everything would get a chance to heal up when I had my knee scoped. Every time I do arms even wearing the bandit it kills me later that day and the next. If I don't wear the bandit it hurts while I'm doing my arm routine

I hear ya man. See what your doctors say, but rehabbing from two surgeries at the same time is going to be very time consuming. Doable, but a real pain in the ass.

[PistolPete33]

I don't know they would allow you to do both surgeries together. I have a hip replacement and if you do the shoulder and knee together you won't be able to use crutches for your recovery. Depending on which sides they are both on you may not be able to use a cane either. My father had both done at the same time but he was on a ladder that collapsed so he had no choice.

[APIs]

I'd agree with others on here to have it done asap. I've had my left done twice. Yes it sucked, but totally worth it. Take your time on the rehab & do it properly. Your only recourse is the surgery if you want to be training properly & pain-free one year from now...

[optionsdude]

Okay I kind of misspoke here. I wouldn't do both at the same time knee first then after I'm off crutches I'd do the shoulder which should be within a few weeks. I just don't want to spend 4-6 months rehabbing one thing then do it all over again. Damn API I didn't want to hear that "one year from now" comment. More scars and new parts,something to look forward to I guess.NOT!

[lovbyts]

Not a bad idea I think getting the done one after the other. Doesnt getting older suck sometimes?

[Chauffeur]

Okay I kind of misspoke here. I wouldn't do both at the same time knee first then after I'm off crutches I'd do the shoulder which should be within a few weeks. I just don't want to spend 4-6 months rehabbing one thing then do it all over again. Damn API I didn't want to hear that "one year from now" comment. More scars and new parts,something to look forward to I guess.NOT!

You could do that...wait until you're off crutches and then have your shoulder repaired, just be prepared for a huge time commitment to physical therapy.

PT for one of those recoveries is going to require a minimum of 2 hours per week at the PT clinic for ~4 months, plus some exercises/stretches on your own time at home.

Managing two rehab programs at the same time is going to be tough. It's kind of a lose/lose situation. You either have to spend a ton of time on PT, or be out of commission for a year while you rehab each one separately.

[mr.slippyfist69]

Just went though the very same surgery last Dec. I was in a sling for a month then started PT right after. The second I was out of that sling I did a cycle of TB-500 per Romans advise. I have to say that my range of motion returned ahead of schedule according to my PT and Ortho. A year later I still can't do bench work, overhead 100% out of the question and heat every morning along with Ice after work and also post workout. My bicep shrunk as did my shoulder muscles and are slowly returning to size. I took it easy like I was told, was honest with my Drs and followed the PT protocols to a T. I stretch everyday and Have done a good deal of research on sups and such to aid in the recovery.

[GirlyGymRat]

I don't know they would allow you to do both surgeries together. I have a hip replacement and if you do the shoulder and knee together you won't be able to use crutches for your recovery. Depending on which sides they are both on you may not be able to use a cane either. My father had both done at the same time but he was on a ladder that collapsed so he had no choice.

I agree. Doctors would not permit both ankle and rotator cuff on same day. Different body positions requires in surgery and can't use crutches.

Shoulder surgery is the second operation.

[optionsdude]

Thanks for the replies guys and Girly. I haven't been around much lately been back at work and it's been 12-14 hour days. I'm hanging in there but had to start taking naproxen daily some times 2x daily and a 1/2 a Percocet on the really bad days, after work of course I am a driver. Yes Girly I'll do the knee first,I met my new knee replacement dr a few weeks ago and he cringed when he saw the pics of my knee from the scope. Didn't hesitate saying partial knee replacement, medial side, not a full knee replacement, ASAP, well when I'm ready. My physical therapist is getting me through with the shoulder for now a true miracle worker and attentive to all of his patients. Nothing like any place I've ever been to in the past.