1st go with Tren

[PBJtime]

What's up fellas , I'm currently on
Test cyp 2x a wk @ 500
Tren Ace 50cc's EOD

Question is I'm looking to lean out but I'm confused with all the talk about running test lower and keep tren high ? And should I be taking tren eod or ed ?

Also im taking Albuterol 2x a day for 4 wks and coming off . I ordered some proviron and prami is essential to take . Can some of you vets steer me in the right direction .

[< <Samson> >]

What are your stats

[RangerDanger830]

Well first off, I would like to say that it is always smarter and safer to do the research completely before starting. You should've asked this before you started.

Pending your stats I will not comment any further other than to ask you to also consider HCG also and make sure you have familiarized yourself with proviron and how much you will need to take to effectively regulate your estrogen. Can't say much more than that without stats. 500mg of Test a week would be considered excess for me on a Tren cycle. At 400mg/week of Tren, 250mg of Test was plenty to avoid bad sides and feel good.

[PBJtime]

I'm not that new ... This is my 6th cycle
5'8
31 yrs old
208 lbs
BF - 14-15 ? Maybe less
Train - 5 days a wk
10 yrs experience

All my cycles have been a lean bulk and now I guess it's time to cut up a bit with some more adjusting to my diet I will do later . Just being cautious with tren due to its wild nature .

I've done a lot of read for the past couple years and still till today I'm reading .. I hear to many conflicting opinions on how to run this cycle . I do have all my research chemicals in place , HCG , Letro just in case , adex , nolva , clomid , ghrp-6 and more ... I'm not shy on spending money when it comes to my health . Anything else let me know ! Feel free

[< <Samson> >]

I'm in the middle of a tren/test/sDrol cycle right now. Nothing too crazy


I like to run my test lower than tren, I don't see the need for high test. Tren alone is strong enough on it's own. The test is there mainly just to keep us alive and keep shit working.


As far as the test - I was considering running a long ester at a low dose with my Ace. But why? You need to pin EOD, so might as well run prop. Also, if you're just getting on it will kinda suck at first since the test e will take almost two weeks to kick in at full dose. While the tren will be up and running @ full force in less than a week.


So, I am still doing prop. Right now at 70mg EOD of prop & 80mg EOD of tren Ace. I will be ramping up soon to 100mg EOD on the tren, but keeping the prop the same.



So, my full line up right now is: HCG @ 250iu every 4th day, Tren Ace @ 80mg EOD, Test Prop @ 70mg EOD, sDrol @ 10-15mg Qd, Caber @ .25mg every 4th day, tapering through Letro(gyno BS)

[numbere]

Not sure if you've read this, it's a great thread by aotomini that covers tren very thoroughly.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...ly-thread.html

[PBJtime]

Thanks Samson for your insight bro !

- So since I'm currently doing 500 of Test Cyp now , you think I can get away with 250 or possibly 175 a week with 50 - 75 eod of Tren m/w/f ? Just so I'm understanding you correctly that's all ..

[< <Samson> >]

Well, if you insist on running a long ester test. I'd do 1/4ml of test(that's if it's typical 200-250mg per ml test) eod along side 70-80mg Eod of tren ace.

Or - You can break the test into 2 shots each being like 100-125mg per week. But, then you're shooting straight tren ace on days you don't need to shoot the test.


This is why it sucks to combine short & long esters in one cycle throughout.


Play with the numbers a little. You'll figure it out


But, 50mg of tren ace eod is a bit too conservative IMO. I think 70 is solid - but, yet again - not all gear is created equal. Like the ace I'm on now feels hell of a lot stronger than the shit I ran last year.

[PBJtime]

Numbere solid link ! Cannot thank you enough for that . One thing I have noticed is I Do Not get tren cough ? Is there a reason why

[PBJtime]

@ Samson , man this is my 2nd week being on this cycle and I can already tell that shit is getting serious ! I mean , since I'm not really lifting heavy at the time more about reps and pumping blood into the muscle . I'm getting some nasty pumps ! Skin is like stretching lol I still have this stubborn ass belly fat that is taking forever to go away tho .

Overall , I really do appreciate you tweaking my cycle ! I will hit you up with how I'm doing later on ..