Prop/NPP/Winny cycle ?'s!!!

[NACH3]

Hello all,
I'm curious about NPP(which I've never used this compound). I know its just the short ester version of Deca, and have been hearing w/proper nutrition (macro breakdowns etc) one can cut or bulk w/NPP... Correct?

My next cycle will include these compounds: Prop/NPP/Winny
My stats are 5'10" 175-180; 31 yrs old; bf% around 13-15%.

Wks 1-10 525mg prop wkly/NPP 400mg wkly
Wks 6-10 50mg oral Winny for 4 wks(Either NAC or milk thistle)

hCG - 250iu from day 1
Aromasin - gonna try 12.5mg ed first(b/c my last cycle of prop/primo/anavar I took 25mg ed(I had no sides on cycle, but felt like my E2 was low/if not crashed) I felt like my legs weren't under me, very lethargic, didn't even want to work out, depressed, and slept for like a month!
Caber - .25mg twice a week... Is That the right starting dose for caber(I've read online where they say start at .25 and adjust from there??

Also, would like to continue on after 10 wks to prop/Primo or Mast - for my final cut...??
Any advice will be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

[Bio-Active]

Your hcg should be 250 iu 2xew. Aromasin at 12.5 mg Ed is a good starting point. Npp and deca are the same compound. They are both nandrolone. Nandralone prop vs nandralone deconate. One is fast releasing ester and deca are is longer. You can cut on either as long as your nutrition is on par

[NACH3]

Darn auto correct... Lol I meant to say hCG 250iu twice wkly... So everything else looks ok then, huh? Thanks!

[Bio-Active]

Darn auto correct... Lol I meant to say hCG 250iu twice wkly... So everything else looks ok then, huh? Thanks!

what is the plan for pct?

[NACH3]

Depends, I wanted to 10wks of the above cycle, then switch to prop/primo(at least 1g a wk) for ??? Not sure how long I should run the prop/primo after the NPP Cycle... What do you think about this???

If I ran both, PCT - 6 wk PCT
Clomid 100/75/50/50/50/25
Nolva. 40/40/20/20/20/20

If I just do the NPP PCT: 4 wk PCT
Clomid 100/75/50/50
Nolva. 40/40/20/20

What do you think?

[Bio-Active]

Depends, I wanted to 10wks of the above cycle, then switch to prop/primo(at least 1g a wk) for ??? Not sure how long I should run the prop/primo after the NPP Cycle... What do you think about this???

If I ran both, PCT - 6 wk PCT
Clomid 100/75/50/50/50/25
Nolva. 40/40/20/20/20/20

If I just do the NPP PCT: 4 wk PCT
Clomid 100/75/50/50
Nolva. 40/40/20/20

What do you think?

The 4 wk pct should be fine brother

[NACH3]

Even if I did both cycles as I mebtioned(the 4 wk PCT would be sufficient enough?? And thanks for your feedback, Much Appreciated my man; Good or bad!!!

[Bio-Active]

Even if I did both cycles as I mebtioned(the 4 wk PCT would be sufficient enough?? And thanks for your feedback, Much Appreciated my man!

run your 10 weeks and come off. 12 weeks max

[NACH3]

Gotcha... I thought that's which one you were referring too! Thanks again bro!

[Buster Brown]

That cycle looks good. I like oral @ 50 mgs a day backloaded on a cut.....should be fun!

[NACH3]

That's what I was thinkin, too! Lol - I'll let you know how it goes Buster!

Hey gotta few ?'s that you may be able to help me with... Getting bloods done for Low-T ASAP(TRT/HGH candidate). Would you mind if I PMd you and explained my situation?? If not I do understand... Take Care Brotha!

[ironbeck]

When I did npp, I liked it.

[NACH3]

I keep hearing all the benefits from Nandrolone itself(bulk/or cut, size, strength)...and it's joint benefits are a must for me(3 R shoulder surgeries - need total joint replacement @ 23, now 31...

I'm looking forward to it, too.. Also, I am aware of Winny's ability to be tough on the joints, Therefore, I chose to backload it...

[Mr.BB]

Im on week 4 of prop/npp but its a bulk, its winter lol.

Loving it so far

[NACH3]

Nice! Lol how long are you running your cycle for??

I was wondering how your water retention has been?? I want some size but lean muscle which is why I backloaded it with the oral winny to get rid of any xtra water I retained at end if cycle... Bake sense??

[Mr.BB]

10 weeks of prop, 8 of npp. The plan was to do 2 extra weeks of just test. Might think of extend it to 12 weeks as got a bad flu after christmas which ****ed my trainings, have time to decide.

Loving that barely get the prop pip as im cutting it with the npp, or my body just got used to it lol

Joints feel as butter

[NACH3]

That's great to hear about your joints(hence one of the reasons I'm gonna run the NPP) I'm going for 12 weeks(10 w/NPP and another 2 wks of prop)!

Are you using caber, Prami, or Bromo for Progesterone/prolactin??

[Mr.BB]

Just started caber 0,25 twice a week, was getting difficult to orgasm lol, gf was loving it tough...

[NACH3]

LMAO - they definitely do love it! Haha

[NACH3]

Hey all,
Quick ? On best time to pin?? I'll be in the gym by 4:30am and my last prop/primo... I pinned ed b4 my workout(obviously in a spot I'm not working directly) and had no probs! So, is this ok or should I be doing it at a diff. time if their is reasoning behind it? And on my 4 week backload of winny what's the best time to take the oral winny(once a day/multiple times per day), & does it come in a 50mg pill or is it a lower mg pill taken a few times a day?

Thanks if anyone catches this!!

[Buster Brown]

Hey all,
Quick ? On best time to pin?? I'll be in the gym by 4:30am and my last prop/primo... I pinned ed b4 my workout(obviously in a spot I'm not working directly) and had no probs! So, is this ok or should I be doing it at a diff. time if their is reasoning behind it? And on my 4 week backload of winny what's the best time to take the oral winny(once a day/multiple times per day), & does it come in a 50mg pill or is it a lower mg pill taken a few times a day?

Thanks if anyone catches this!!

My winny tabs were 50 mg tabs that I took once a day in the morning. You can split it up twice a day especially if you get 10 mg tabs. Pin when you get up and there is no reason you can't pin shoulders and then go work them.

[Bio-Active]

My winny tabs were 50 mg tabs that I took once a day in the morning. You can split it up twice a day especially if you get 10 mg tabs. Pin when you get up and there is no reason you can't pin shoulders and then go work them.

lol if it's virgin muscle it may get sore but you will get used to it

[Buster Brown]

lol if it's virgin muscle it may get sore but you will get used to it

Grab the bull by the horns!

[NACH3]

Lol funny.... Oh plan was to do the same as b4 and yes I did work shoulders after pinning them b4...haha

And I also plan on ed injections! I love prop!

[Bio-Active]

Lol funny.... Oh plan was to do the same as b4 and yes I did work shoulders after pinning them b4...haha And I also plan on ed injections! I love prop!

lol you will be fine and your muscles will get used to it

[Buster Brown]

Lol funny.... Oh plan was to do the same as b4 and yes I did work shoulders after pinning them b4...haha

And I also plan on ed injections! I love prop!

You will love ed injections until you feel like a pin cushion. .gets old quick..lol

[NACH3]

No doubt it always gets old... Lol but it keeps bloat down the best.?! That's what I've read for optimum results,too!

[Buster Brown]

No doubt it always gets old... Lol but it keeps bloat down the best.?! That's what I've read for optimum results,too!

Ahhhhhh, I don't know about that tbh but I hope you have fun with it.

[Bio-Active]

No doubt it always gets old... Lol but it keeps bloat down the best.?! That's what I've read for optimum results,too!

Nutrition and e2 control will keep the bloat down

[NACH3]

Yeah your right... That woulda been the correct answer! Thanks guys!