Need help Re:husband post cycle

[mjg74]

My husband has been cycling for about 18 months. He has never had any issues. No pct. No taper. Just cycles off. He went on a tren/deca cycle and cycled off about 6 weeks ago. He is in a severe depression. 2 weeks ago he went to the dr. His blood work showed high hematocrit and high test, because he had just injected prescribed test replacement. Dr left him on the test but offered no other recommendations.

The past 2 weeks he has been in a very bad place. I know he has injected a small amount of deca at the recommendation of his supplier but I don't think that's the best way to combat this.

Can anyone help me so that I can help him?

[hawk14dl]

The pros will be in soon to offer complete advice. If he is on test replacement, he needs to lay off the other compounds for a long while. Stick to the prescribed dosage. He needs to go donate blood asap. He should also have blood work done to check e2 and prolactin.

18 months is steroid abuse. It's going to be hard for him to come off.

[mjg74]

He wasn't on all the time for 18 months. He would cycle off for months at a time. But he began using for the first time 18 months ago.

He has already donated. The crit wasn't dangerously high. It's the same as it was the last time. I just tried to give as much info as I could.

He's not an idiot. But it seems like the last cycle with the deca has not agreed with him.

[tectime]

Have him run his prescribed tes dose with hcg

[tectime]

For a couple of months without any deca and let it clear from his system. Just keep him positive and reinforce him while making sure he stays active. Gym golf whatever he enjoys in his fun time. Unless he has emotional issues to start with he will return to his " normal " self once the deca clears snd tes levels become stabilized.

[hawk14dl]

Has he tested e2 and prolactin?

[lovbyts]

Has he tested e2 and prolactin?

^^^ This, he needs to get his sensitive E2 (estrogen) checked. More than likely it's still high but now that he is back on just his trt protocol it will probably go back down.

What is his trt/hrt protocol? How much test per week? Does he take hcg? He really should join and start reading in the HRT section. There is a lot that most doctors dont even realize about hrt but they are learning slowly.

[tdoe11]

With no AI and no pct I would also guess it's estrogen/prolactin related. Blood work will confirm that, then you can work on fixing it.

[600@50]

Tren AND deca at the same time? Tren by itself has given me some issues for 6 weeks or so. Add in deca and that's probably the combination he should have avoided.

As everyone has said get the E2 sensitive test and prolactin checked. Stay on the TRT dose and keep a check on the hemoglobin and hematocrit. When mine get elevated I get lethargic so I do a self bleed. Not recommended if he's able to donate. Do the double red blood cell donation if possible. In time all this will clear out. Stay active and try to stay positive.

[tarmyg]

I know he has injected a small amount of deca at the recommendation of his supplier but I don't think that's the best way to combat this.

Whatever the "supplier" is saying you can forget about. He does not have his best interest at heart for obvious reasons.

[Deal Me In]

Was he on Deca and Tren with no Test? I can't fathom what that would do to his body. It takes me 2 months to fully recover from tren with test and PCT.

If the supplier suggested the Deca and Tren with no Test, the next time you see the supplier, RUN.

[itiswhatitis]

Now I am new to this but I've been under the assumption by the guys here you shouldn't run any cycle without test !!!

[lovbyts]

I'm pretty sure he was still using test from the way I read it. He is on trt.

[mjg74]

Yes. He is always on test. Hrt. He got blood work today. I will post results when we get them. He is starting hgc today along with his normal test. Also started high b6 dosage and some b12 and vit e for good measure. I appreciate your imput. Like I said, he has never ever had an issue cycling off. And he's sworn off deca and tren. Not worth it to him.

[< <Samson> >]

I have heard enough horror stories from guys having recovery issues post deca cycles to not try it on myself.

As mentioned, BW - test free & total, e2 - then go from there, stay on a low TRT test type dose along with HCG and a mild Ai.

[hawk14dl]

Thanks for reporting back! Keep us updated on the blood work

[Machdiesel]

Bloodwork is the only thing that will help. Anyone's suggestions are pure speculation. BW With estrogen, test, prolactin, SHBG, dht, CBC,comp metabolic would be a good start

[mjg74]

Blood work has been done. Just as an update, when he got up today it was like night and day. Seems to be coming out of it. We will see. Again, I appreciate everyone's responses.

[Machdiesel]

Awesome, great to hear

[almostgone]

Yes. He is always on test. Hrt. He got blood work today. I will post results when we get them. He is starting hgc today along with his normal test. Also started high b6 dosage and some b12 and vit e for good measure. I appreciate your imput. Like I said, he has never ever had an issue cycling off. And he's sworn off deca and tren. Not worth it to him.

Glad to hear he is recovering, but personally I would avoid high B6 for any length of time. It can cause problems by itself depending on the dosage.