dont tell me to run test, i want to hear what kind of results people got from doing an equipoise only cycle also what dosage and length they took it
looking to hear pound and strength increases
dont tell me to run test, i want to hear what kind of results people got from doing an equipoise only cycle also what dosage and length they took it
looking to hear pound and strength increases
You're not going to find many people who have run an EQ only cycle. Why do you not want to run test?
25 yrs but still get acne dont wanna aggravate it, people will say if youre scared to break out aas isnt for you, but i just wanna know what kind of results i could expect with eq, maybe 5-10 lbs?
More like 5 - 10 grams. Eq. doesn't build muscle. (DING!!! ROUND ONE!!!! lol)
I honestly think your ****ing with me. But in case your not.
Read the rules and stickies. Where you will learn that you should use the search engine to see if the answer to your question has already been posted. Which in this case it has and just recently I might add.
But your going to do what you want because afterall you seem to have made up your mind. Which I got from your thread starter post. Unless of course your ****ing with me or EQ is the only thing you have access to.
Please scroll down the page and read the last Eq only debate.
Ding-ding....next.
Last edited by Misery13; 04-23-2012 at 05:43 PM.
Actually jus like the guy who wrote the characteristics of Eq and jus like me he reports good quality muscle gains. Ccnsidering this write up is right here at steroid.com if you look up a steroid on the main page he will tell u the characteristics of what each steroid does. And like he says u build quality muscle on Eq . It's mostly used by athletes due to it's long acting ester. AromatIzation rate is so low that u won't need to consider an ai. And it's unheard of for water retention. You must run minimum of 12 weeks and levels 400-600. However i would not run by itself it is very common to experience serious sexual side effects when ran by itself and you will not nearly come close to making the gains and keeping them like u would if u ran test with it
It should also be noted that those profiles are out dated & largely inaccurate, not to mention, a lot of them were written by a inexperienced fvcking clown that has since been banished from the world of steroids world wide. It has been proven time & time again, through hands on experience, Eq. + Test. = same results as Test. only, therefore accurately concluding, Eq. builds no muscle, (whoa..........de ja vu.....) For every 1 person that says "Eq. is great", you will find 20+ that say its worthless garbage, & many of those claims are coming from guys that have run 1000 + mg/wk.
Last edited by The Bear 79; 04-23-2012 at 05:56 PM.
I have a mate who's a bit slow. He ran an Eq only cycle. Jabbed himself far more than you would want to (it was dosed at 75mgs) and got no noticeable gains. Was definitely real, aussie veterinary gear. Just did nothing.
Hey wait....I don't want to wake the Bear but many newbys including myself are told to read the profiles when we have had questions. Now your saying to dismiss the profiles because they are outdated, incorrect and written by an ass? I'm confused![]()
I'm not letting you out of my site bro, LOL. I want in depth details of this Eq. only cycle if you don't mind, include his stats, diet & training regime, you can have a Mod or Vet check the source to verify the gear was legit............lets seal this damn "Eq. is great / Eq. is worthless" debate once & for all.
I hear ya Bear...I have read the profiles of the stuff I am interested in and have learned quite a bit. I have then used search to find answers to more specific questions...then if all else fails I come to the board with head hung low and ask to be granted knowledge lol.
This place has been a huge help to a lot of ppl. I for one want to say thanks to all of you vets and pros for putting up with all the dumb questions (including mine) and having to weed through all the teenagers asking the same sh#@ every day!
Sorry to thread jack my brotha!
Even if you only ran testosterone at 150-200mgs a week you'd be better off then going without. Eq shuts you down. Add a bit of test to keep shit functioning. Personally I think you are wasting your time with eq.
I was working with him every day at this time so I know pretty well what he was up to. He was 22 (I know, I told him, he didn't listen, let's move on), 6'1", roughly 200lbs, 14 - 16% BF. Has a background in Rugby Union and power lifting so I imagine he knows a bit about training. The diet I wrote for him is below (can we not get bogged down with critiqueing this please?) but he was eating more than is on the diet and definitely more carbs.
Option 2
Meal 1
1 ½ cups of oats P24 C90 F15 Cal615
4 x egg whites P16 C0 F0 Cal67
2 whole eggs P12 C1 F9 Cal140
1 x banana P1 C27 F0 Cal 105
20 grams of whey isolate P20 C0 F0 Cal84
5 grams of L-Glutamine P5 C0 F0 Cal21
Meal totals P78 C118 F24 Cal1,032
Meal 2
200g of chicken/turkey/beef P43 C0 F6 Cal238
50g natural almonds P10 C2 F27 Cal258
1 cup of green beans or asparagus
Meal totals P53 C2 F33 Cal 496
Meal 3
1 x tin of tuna P17 C2 F5 Cal123
3 x boiled eggs P19 C1 F15 Cal221
50 grams natural almonds P10 C2 F27 Cal258
Baby spinach based salad (no starchy vegetables like potatoes or tomato)
Meal totals P46 C5 F47 Cal644
Meal 4
Same as meal 2
Meal totals P53 C2 F33 Cal 496
Meal 5
Same as meal 2
Meal totals P53 C2 F33 Cal 496
Pre-workout
30 grams of whey isolate P30 C0 F0 Cal126
2 x bananas P2 C54 F0 Cal105
5 grams of L-Glutamine P5 C0 F0 Cal21
Meal totals P37 C54 F0 Cal252
Post-workout
40 grams of whey isolate P40 C0 F0 Cal168
5 grams of L-Glutamine P5 C0 F0 Cal21
40 Grams of glucose lollies P0 C40 F0 Cal168 (or waxy maize starch or dextrose powder)
Meal totals P45 C40 F0 Cal357
Meal 6
250g of lean beef/chicken P48 C0 F5 Cal247
1 cup (300g) sweet potato P4 C60 F0 Cal264
Minimum 1 cup of broccoli
Meal totals P52 C60 F5 Cal 511
Before bed
2 x whole eggs P13 C1 F10 Cal147
5 x egg whites P20 C1 F0 Cal86
Meal totals P33 C2 F10 Cal233
Daily Totals Protein: 464 Carbs: 291 Fat: 195 Calories: 4,480
OK, although not perfect, that is defiantly a sufficient mass / muscle building diet & he had a decent natty foundation to start with, so there will be no discrediting the results based on those aspects. How many mg/wk was he using & for how long?
Maybe some of the vets or mods should get together and write an updated AAS profile section!!! .....any takers? Lol
My trainer is a older guy and he still uses gear. He says hes been doing the same cycles off and on for going on 30 years now, one of his favorite being eq only. I personally wouldnt use eq by alone unless i was using several grams a week
what kind of dosages did you do with both, how many weeks
^^^^^^*^^^^^^^^^^Originally Posted by DeadlyD
seconds! I'm personally offended that they have all been read and replied with "..........." and now I find out this? Tisk tisk
i remember reading a few vets saying they like eq. its good for oiling their bike chains
yeah i had some elbow tendinitis, and a shoulder cartilage tear last year. ran some var as it increases collagen synthesis and it helped out a bunch. equipoise increases collagen synthesis even more, might have some good effects as elbow tendons are hurtin a bit again
eq will put on some weight but wont be much. maybe 5 pounds, i love eq and am running it with trt dose of test to keep going 1200 eq with sum tren, never looked better. no water retention from test, the eq makes me look veiny as hell, my shoulders really stand out on eq, gives all my muscles more of a pop to them.the tren gives me sum mass and fat loss. its great cycle. lean vascluar and strong. no water retention.
anyone who says my muscles have more of a pop to them because im leaner, as soon as i take eq out, 3-4 weeks the pop is no longer there.eq is an amazing drug, every forum loves it except for this one.dont see how ppl dont fall in love with this drug.
If this is the **** I think it is, he knows his gear. Not sure I personally believe the synergy between test and eq because it's not been my experience. I've heard of deca eq synergy before too. Saw nothing from it personally either. The only compounds I would personally state create a situation where 1+1=5 is Anavar and primo. In fairly high doses these compounds (which are fairly weak on their own) produce amazing results.Originally Posted by The Bear 79
Didn't see anything with EQ that blew my mind or even got my attention. I've run more cycles then I can count at this point. EQ will never again be in my stash box.
run deca only cycle at 600-800mg a week and use o.5 caber e3d , u might get deca dick. but the gains can be great. pair it with teh sling shot method of 20 weeks.
screw eq, send it back to teh vet it came from.
10 years ago, it seems like alternating eq and deca with your fina and test had great results. now its got a bad name. People stack gear for no reason, thinking more is better.
i stand behind not stacking gear till u stop gaining at 1.5 grams of test a week.
Is this a joke?? Don't do an eq only, but a deca only? Great advice!Originally Posted by bodybycookiesandcake
uve never ran a deca only cycle so how can you know what its results are.
deca is a great drug.
This board doesn't promote cycles without test as a base!Originally Posted by bodybycookiesandcake
Deca atleast produces results. And personally I've never experienced deca dick.Originally Posted by dooie
Well since there is a general 'board consensus' on all matters concerning anabolic steroids I guess we can all just log off and let you field every question that comes along. Just ****ing with you and not trying to be a dick, but seriously. Do you speak for the board? I never run cycles without test but I have access to human grade Watson testosterone. So why would I? But deca only cycles aren't unheard of and not everyone puts so much emphasis on whether or not their dick works 24/7.Originally Posted by dooie
ill say again, deca is a great drug.
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