Back & Shin pumps

[TommyBigBoy7]

Been on 100mg var ed, the last couple of weeks the shin pumps have been so bad I can't walk up the road without stopping! The last week lower back pumps have kicked in also. I have finished the tub of var tabs & am thinking of just keep running the test e 500mg split in twice per week! Will stopping the var stop the pumps?
My Cycle
Week 1-13 Mon & Thurs Test E 600mg per week Week 2-13 Anavar 100mg Everyday
Week 1-13 Mon & Thurs Hcg 250iu twice per week(10units x2 per week)
Week 14-18
Clomid 100/75/50/50
Nolvadex 40/20/20/20
I am on week 6

[Haydenz]

How are you when you train back ?

[TommyBigBoy7]

Been no bother throughout the cycle at all until 4 days ago.
I have finished my 50 var tabs so just thinking of not bothering running more & just keep it a test only cycle

[Haydenz]

I don't think it's the var, I suffer for insane back pumps and they happen the same time

How much weight have you put on ?
Do you stretch your glutes ?
Do you do lower back extensions ?

[TommyBigBoy7]

Just going off research iv done it seems a common side of var.

About 15lb over 5-6weeks and dropped bf

No I don't do extensions

I have been foam rolling calves & lower back everyday

[Haydenz]

I get bad back pumps and I'm not on var ever,

A common reason why you get back pumps if it's NOT aas related is tight glutes, hamstrings and calves,

Also you have put on quite a decent amount of size in a short period of time it does take time for your body to adjust to this and you should be adding in back extensions if you are prone to back pumps to strengthen your lower back .

If it is var related throwing in a teaspoon of taurine after your workout.

If not try my methods out, back pumps kill me every cycle

[TommyBigBoy7]

I have had shin pumps before but never back pumps!

The shin pumps are just as bad I have just walked down the street to go to shop & had to turn around & come back as my right shin/calf feels like it will explode! AGONY!
It is only the right calf it happens to.

[powerliftmike]

Ive gotten bad shin splints/pumps on tren. Also if you do calf raises on level ground (not doing the negative movement by standing on an elevated platform) that causes it for me.

[Haydenz]

I have to do cardio three times a week for Comp prep and going up hills is the absolute worst pain.

It feels like my back is about to pop, it ****ing sucks

[jstone]

I had really bad back pumps from a pro hormone product. I used taurine like Haydenz recommended, and it took them away. As long as I used the taurine daily the back pumps stayed away.

[Haydenz]

Pro hormones are highly liver toxic also, did you run a liver protector with it ?

I rememeber a few years a go I did a pro hormone cycle and I never ever drink alcohol, but I did this one night and I couldn't move the next morning my liver was pounding with rediculous amounts of pain, shit is poison.

[TommyBigBoy7]

I have finished my supply of var so not going to continue with them I am just going to run the test e at 500mg per week

What are the chances of the shin & back pumps continuing with test e only?

I am going to try & drop 6lb as I have abused food over the Xmas lol but hoping dropping a bit weight will ease the pain as this is torture I can't even walk my dogs down the street lol

[TommyBigBoy7]

I have started using taurine & drinking more water & using painkillers so just hoping it is down to the extra weight going on quick, will start a low carb diet & dropping the var will help

[jstone]

Pro hormones are highly liver toxic also, did you run a liver protector with it ?

I rememeber a few years a go I did a pro hormone cycle and I never ever drink alcohol, but I did this one night and I couldn't move the next morning my liver was pounding with rediculous amounts of pain, shit is poison.

I did use a couple things for liver protection. It was a single compound and not one of those quad stacks. They are poison for sure. My blood work went from being completely stable, and everything always being in range. The blood work after I used it caused my test levels to be cut in half, and quadrupled my estrogen. I have a bottle of m-sten I was going to use, but after that I will just trash it and continue with trt. I will use something injectable in the future.

[Haydenz]

I did use a couple things for liver protection. It was a single compound and not one of those quad stacks. They are poison for sure. My blood work went from being completely stable, and everything always being in range. The blood work after I used it caused my test levels to be cut in half, and quadrupled my estrogen. I have a bottle of m-sten I was going to use, but after that I will just trash it and continue with trt. I will use something injectable in the future.

have you blasted before?

[Haydenz]

I have started using taurine & drinking more water & using painkillers so just hoping it is down to the extra weight going on quick, will start a low carb diet & dropping the var will help

I dont think you should use pain killers man, you are just disguising the problem, trust me on the back extensions man,

every time you go to the gym, do 3 sets of 20 back extensions with no weight, dont hyper extend the whole way up till your back is straight, just flop over the bar and do slight extensions, you will feel it,

[TommyBigBoy7]

I dont think you should use pain killers man, you are just disguising the problem, trust me on the back extensions man, every time you go to the gym, do 3 sets of 20 back extensions with no weight, dont hyper extend the whole way up till your back is straight, just flop over the bar and do slight extensions, you will feel it,

Yeah i done 3x20 extensions today my back just got super pumped I'm trying not to use many anti inflammatory but sometime I need to lol

[powerliftmike]

If by back pumps you mean cramping, I get horrible back cramping and all over cramping on clenbuterol. Not sure how well taurine works, but it is suggested often for this.

As for the prohormones, who really knows what they do... At least the illegal stuff has research and the effects are well-known.

[jstone]

have you blasted before?

No planning my first cycle right now. Plan to start early january. I tried the pro hormone to help lose some fat I accumulated during recovery from back surgery. All i know is those pro hormone product are not worth it. The reason I'm here is to find the info needed to put together my first cycle.

[TommyBigBoy7]

Just an update. Since stopping var all back & shin pumps have gone