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    5 shots in first cycle in 21 years getting side effects already.

    Greetings all. I just turned 40 on Easter. My first and only other cycle was when I was 19 out of high school I had to bulk for college hockey. So 21 years later I've always been in the gym I just have been finding it harder and harder to maintain much less gain size. I had a bad back injury about 12 years ago and numerous problems since then but I always work through them. So I decided to step back into the game. I was going to do a 16 week cycle. I had all my labs done and everything looked good. This is what I got
    4 bottles of Test Enanthate 300MG 10ML Bottles
    3 Bottles of Deca 300MG 10ML Bottles
    2 Bottles of Tren Acetate 100MG 10ML bottles

    After speaking with my nutritionist and trainer both who work with body builders on a daily basis I put together my meal plans and work outs and cycle. We decided I should do 1CC of Test and 1CC of Tren every 3.5 days and not use the Deca right now. So around my 3rd shot I was having sensitive nipples so they put me on Arimidex one 50mg tab every shot day. Shot 4 it was still the same so he has me taking Armidex every day and now wants to add Novaldex and Letro. I'm grabbing that tomorrow but I took my 5th shot yesterday and although my nipples don't hurt all the time if my gym back or a weight catches my chest wrong, I sure feel it. Also I think I am having prostate problems. My pee stream has slowed down and I can feel it when I go.

    My question is should I stop my cycle and jump into a PCT? Cut out the Tren? I know tren is hard on a body but I've just started seeing big changes this week with a lot more strength and hardness. I'd like to stick this through I just don't want to cause more damage to my body. Any input from advanced users would be much appreciated. Thanks.

    Also, I am not familiar with all the short names of everything so if you're going to tell me what to do, try not to use a 2 letter abbreviation, please.

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    Edit i miss read apologies xp thought it was tren e so it would have been good to stop and run a proper cycle as safe as pos.

    X2 on what bib said below post #6
    Last edited by clarky.; 04-09-2015 at 02:04 AM.

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    So stop completely? Ughhhhh.... not what I wanted to hear...... I am just starting to see results and feel them. I was wrong by the way, I have done my 6th shot yesterday not my 5th. Here is my blood work.

    Component Standard Range Your Value
    ALT (SGPT) 8-45 IU/L 95
    VITAMIN D TOTAL 30.0-80.0 ng/mL 37.0
    AST (SGOT) 2-40 IU/L 78
    VITAMIN B12 211-911 pg/mL 650
    TSH 0.35-4.94 uIU/mL 2.34
    SODIUM 135-145 mmol/L 141
    POTASSIUM 3.5-5.0 mmol/L 4.2
    CHLORIDE 98-110 mmol/L 108
    CO2,TOTAL 21-31 mmol/L 23
    ANION GAP 5-18 10
    GLUCOSE 65-100 mg/dL 86
    CALCIUM 8.5-10.5 mg/dL 9.8
    BUN 8-25 mg/dL 15
    CREATININE 0.72-1.25 mg/dL 1.23
    BUN/CREAT RATIO 10-20 12
    GFR if African American >60 ml/min/1.73m2 >60
    GFR if not African American >60 ml/min/1.73m2 >60
    CHOLESTEROL,TOTAL 100-199 mg/dL 199
    TRIGLYCERIDES <150 mg/dL 64
    HDL CHOLESTEROL >40 mg/dL 50
    NON-HDL CHOLESTEROL <145 mg/dl 149
    CHOL/HDL RATIO <4.50 3.98
    LDL CHOLESTEROL <=130 mg/dL 136
    PATIENT STATUS FASTING
    TESTOSTERONE FREE 9-30 ng/dL 18
    TESTOSTERONE,TOTAL 240-950 ng/dL 590

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    This is what you should have done:

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

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    [QUOTE=Mr.BB;7031481]This is what you should have done:


    That's helpful. However, I didn't do that. So I would like to know if I can cut the tren and continue with just the Test. It's Tren Acetate so it's going to go through me fast. Other than that I followed all that to a tee.

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    Yes, stop your tren ASAP. And never listen to a trainer/coach as to how to cycle. Or a dealer.

    Pull your test down town to 0.8ml every 3.5 days and run for 12 weeks.

    A'dex at 0.25 or 0.5 mg EOD

    HCG? 250iu's every 3.5 days

    What is your plan for pct?
    Last edited by Back In Black; 04-09-2015 at 01:40 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Yes, stop your tren ASAP. And never listen to a trainer/coach as to how to cycle. Or a dealer.

    Pull your test down town to 0.8ml every 3.5 days and run for 12 weeks.

    A'dex at 0.25 or 0.5 mg EOD

    HCG? 250iu's every 3.5 days

    What is your plan for pct?
    EXACTLY!!!! you don't need Tren and it will mess you up. Test only will give you the results you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Yes, stop your tren ASAP. And never listen to a trainer/coach as to how to cycle. Or a dealer.

    Pull your test down town to 0.8ml every 3.5 days and run for 12 weeks.

    A'dex at 0.25 or 0.5 mg EOD

    HCG? 250iu's every 3.5 days

    What is your plan for pct?
    I have 10,000iu's of HCG to start at week 10-16 + 4 weeks after
    Nolva 30/20/20/10
    Clom 75/50/50/25

    I am taking my shot today so I'm going to cut out the Tren all together. I also got some 200mg Tren Enanthate. thought that might be easier. I may ass the tren back in on week 10-16 if everything clears up.

    Thoughts? I'm also going in next week to get blood work. However, trying to get these labs from my doctor the first time I about had to throw down in his office to get my test levels checked and they refused to do my estrogen levels. Any idea why?

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    This cycle is a train-wreck. Just run TEST ONLY. Don't add the Deca or Tren. Don't add Tren E at the end of the cycle. It will do next to nothing. Tren E is a long ester and takes weeks before it starts working. Once, it starts you will be done. You DON'T need TREN AT ALL for this cycle.

    Take the HCG during cycle like NOW not at the end and during PCT. You stop the HCG during PCT and let your body try to recover. You should have posted these questions BEFORE you jumped on this bad cycle.

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