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    Self Blood Letting....

    Hey brothers & Sisters,

    I posted this in the Q & A and just tryin to get a lil more feedback... Thx

    Hey everyone,

    So just as is says... I'm looking to start my own blood letting!

    Reasons being(easier), and I've been turned down twice in two days(they say they can only tap into my Cephalic vein but only at elbow.... but from being in a long coma, and about 10 surgeries later they are very weak and collapsed on one side) but that same vein comes down your arm and when your palm is facing down it bulges not even 1/2"from elbow and where they want to tap into!

    I've talked to a few therapeutic phlebotomists and they said 21g will definitely work, w/good volume still(note I want to try a 21g b/c of placement where I need to tap into and it'll be smaller)

    So, I'm missing a line/suction for draining?? I plan on getting both an 18g and 20/21g's to see what works best... But how could I make a line or point me in the next step towards one??

    Staff IDK if this is crossing the line, and will edit if need be! Thx and would appreciate any and all advice!
    Last edited by NACH3; 04-15-2015 at 03:22 AM. Reason: Switched from a atery to Vein...

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    18ga and let er' rip

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    Yep, 18 ga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    18ga and let er' rip
    Thx fellas, what do you use for the line(a real suction line) that's the only thing I don't have that I have to get(& just order those 18ers)... I know where to go if I need to do so... But do you guys use anything else(Macgyver style lol) just curios?

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    Where is our expert blood letter, Austinite? He also knows how to get blood out of the carpet when things go amiss and you spill a pint on the floor. lol

    Ill stick to doing it the old fashioned way. Leeches.


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    From what I understand Bass made this video.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Thx fellas, what do you use for the line(a real suction line) that's the only thing I don't have that I have to get(& just order those 18ers)... I know where to go if I need to do so... But do you guys use anything else(Macgyver style lol) just curios?
    I stuck 4mm tubing in the luer lock end of the needle, Nach. 5/32" should work also. Taped it together with tape. The tubing fits pretty decent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    I stuck 4mm tubing in the luer lock end of the needle, Nach. 5/32" should work also. Taped it together with tape. The tubing fits pretty decent.
    Nice AG! I knew someone Macguvered a line! . Thx for those sizes... I'm still gonna get a kit(w/a fitted line etc) that way it's just as easy as 123... Appreciate the line size!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    From what I understand Bass made this video.

    That's a great video!

    Yeah ima go w/an 18er for better flow... I like how that looked!

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    Here you go, the thread I was referring to.

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-l...verywhere.html

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    Thx LB... I'll post up when I'm done(Gonna get all the supplies now)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Thx LB... I'll post up when I'm done(Gonna get all the supplies now)
    You are by far braver than me. I have zero problem getting blood test frequently and the nurses LOVE my large veins because they are so easy but I just could not do it to myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Nice AG! I knew someone Macguvered a line! . Thx for those sizes... I'm still gonna get a kit(w/a fitted line etc) that way it's just as easy as 123... Appreciate the line size!
    Bass was the brains behind it. I just knew 4mm and 5/32" are fairly close to each other in size.
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    They draw blood from antecubital veins, not medial arteries...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    They draw blood from antecubital veins, not medial arteries...
    See I would have done it wrong and bleed out probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    They draw blood from antecubital veins, not medial arteries...
    Yeah after I looked into it further I did realize that. Thx Bonaparte for clarification! I've also read they pull it from the medial artery? For what it's worth I can't tap into that anyway thx again

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    The medial arteries are in your legs. And nobody does phlebotomy through an artery, since arterial lines/draws are relatively difficult and dangerous procedures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    The medial arteries are in your legs. And nobody does phlebotomy through an artery, since arterial lines/draws are relatively difficult and dangerous procedures.
    Thx... I looked up medial artery and TBH I thought it was in our arms(for some reason I kept thinking of Brachial artery the whole time) weird I know...

    And again I appreciate you taking the time to explain that! I've been reading up on sites to draw from and Im sure if wont be a problem... I'll let youse know when I get my supplies, etc... I've also talked to my Dr. And she will write a script which would help (but Id rather start doing it myself)

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    You guys are nutz! lol
    thank god my RBC and the rest always stay good. I hate taking blood out, even for tests... an IM shot is just not the same thing to me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juced_porkchop View Post
    You guys are nutz! lol
    thank god my RBC and the rest always stay good. I hate taking blood out, even for tests... an IM shot is just not the same thing to me..
    Lol... Luckily my crit is only 46 atm
    But my platelets/Monocytes are constantly elevated(no spleen) and my RBC/and white T's always seem to get me a nice stay at the hispital anymore(if fighting something off - immune system compromised after splenectomy) so they said just to donate line it's no big thing(Sbd it ususlly isn't except lately they've been sticking to there guns on where to draw...

    We'll see Gonna order the supplies as soon as I can...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juced_porkchop
    You guys are nutz! lol thank god my RBC and the rest always stay good. I hate taking blood out, even for tests... an IM shot is just not the same thing to me..
    I am a baby! I can't even pin IM. Lol

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    Nach. U can aways PM Bass. He seems like a nice guy. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    Nach. U can aways PM Bass. He seems like a nice guy. .
    Thx for heads up GGR, I'll give it a lil more time(maybe others will chime in, but the more I see the more easier it looks(but I will always have someone around me at all times when I do this) but yes, I do agree that he's got it down nicely.

    Thx for idea(& I'm sure he'd be happy to help)!

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    He hangs out in the HRT subforum. If you posted this there he would have jumped on it. I'll pm him your thread. Cuz I am that nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    He hangs out in the HRT subforum. If you posted this there he would have jumped on it. I'll pm him your thread. Cuz I am that nice.
    Indeed you are!!!

    I didn't want to post it too many places... His video was very informative(simple & to the point)!! And thx, your awesomeness won't be forgotten

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    They draw blood from antecubital veins, not medial arteries...
    Hey Bonaparte, thx again for clearing that up though it was pretty dumb on my part...

    So I see that I'll be tapping into my Cephalic vein as its nice and thick(the branch that wraps clockwise around your forearm... Also my Basalic vein is also very nice(but seems to want to roll)...

    I'd feel more comfortable w/the Cephalic vein... What's your take on this??

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    Jesus lord that video... I can't see myself doing that without passing out

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    If you were to pass out while self bleeding could you bleed to death? Sounds like a stupid question and I would imagine you would pull the needle out but just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Hey brothers & Sisters,

    I posted this in the Q & A and just tryin to get a lil more feedback... Thx

    Hey everyone,

    So just as is says... I'm looking to start my own blood letting!

    Reasons being(easier), and I've been turned down twice in two days(they say they can only tap into my medial vein(at elbow, but from being in a long coma, and about 10 surgeries later they are very weak and collapsed on one side) but that same vein comes down your arm and when your palm is facing down it bulges not even 1/2"from elbow and where they want to tap into!

    I've talked to a few therapeutic phlebotomists and they said 21g will definitely work, w/good volume still(note I want to try a 21g b/c of placement where I need to tap into and it'll be smaller)

    So, I'm missing a line/suction for draining?? I plan on getting both an 18g and 20/21g's to see what works best... But how could I make a line or point me in the next step towards one??

    Staff IDK if this is crossing the line, and will edit if need be! Thx and would appreciate any and all advice!
    this is probably a completely noob question, but why are you blood letting?

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    B/c I don't have a spleen and my platelets and monocytes/and RBC become elevated anf the only way to rid it is through self blood letting... Or donation and I've been turned down twice already...

    I'm sure you could bleed out if one passes out but that's why I would have someone their for the. First couple times.... I don't see myself passing out from this at all, but I've never done it by myself yet...

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    Great idea to have someone else there. I only ask because I remember years ago and the first time I pinned myself I nearly passed out. After pinning hundreds of times it is not an issue but I know I would prob. be nervous pinning a vein for the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete33 View Post
    Great idea to have someone else there. I only ask because I remember years ago and the first time I pinned myself I nearly passed out. After pinning hundreds of times it is not an issue but I know I would prob. be nervous pinning a vein for the first time.
    Yeah I think so... Lol... Never know... But this doesn't make me queasy one bit... Different strokes

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3

    Yeah I think so... Lol... Never know... But this doesn't make me queasy one bit... Different strokes
    I'd never blood let alone..... Jus sayin. In the off chance that anything happened..... Someone's there to make sure I don't bleed to death

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    Nach. U can aways PM Bass. He seems like a nice guy. .
    Nah, he's not really that nice....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Nah, he's not really that nice....
    Lmao...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard
    I'd never blood let alone..... Jus sayin. In the off chance that anything happened..... Someone's there to make sure I don't bleed to death

    Agreed for sure

    But, not all of us really have someone


    My wife does damn near all of my shit. From, the shots in my ass that I can't reach. To home blood letting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

    Agreed for sure

    But, not all of us really have someone

    My wife does damn near all of my shit. From, the shots in my ass that I can't reach. To home blood letting.
    We're just lucky :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Agreed for sure

    But, not all of us really have someone


    My wife does damn near all of my shit. From, the shots in my ass that I can't reach. To home blood letting.
    I told my pops and he's down! my ex fiancé was an Endo(PhD) and woulda been great(but she wasn't down w/the roids) lol

    But why do they(centers) only want to draw from the Cephalic vein(the branch at elbow)?? I don't see it being a problem w/the same Cephalic vein 1/2" down or less??
    Last edited by NACH3; 04-15-2015 at 07:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard
    We're just lucky :-)

    I agree with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    I agree with that

    She loves me on sauce, I'm like her science experiment. She's like - Soo, what are you running now - how long & what possible sides

    It's not that shit that gave you bitch tits & made you all pissed off is it?!



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