Please critique my next cutting cycle

[Duo]

Hi guys,

I am going to start a 10 week cutting cycle 7/9/15 (UK) 9/7/15 (USA), please find below what I am planning to run. I haven't finalised my diet just yet but will post this up in another thread once finalised. Please feel free to critique/advise on what needs changing or adding.

Week 1-2 & 5-6 & 9-10 Thermolipid Stack - Contains the following per 1ml:

Clen 60mg
T3 50mg
Yohimbine hcl
7 keto hcl

I will be running this at 1ml per day.

Week 1-10

Masteron Prop 100mg 10ml vial - 2 x per week; 1ml Mon & Fri

Week 1-6

Testosterone Hyptylate 300mg 10ml vial - 3 x per week; 0.5ml Mon, Wed, Fri

Week 1-8

Trenbolone Acetate 100mg 10ml vial - 3 x per week; 1ml Mon, Wed, Fri

Week 7-10

Testosterone Prop 100mg 10ml vial - 3 x per week; 1ml Mon, Wed, Fri

Week 1 -10

HCG 250iu 2 x per week; Mon, Fri

Week 4-8

Anavar 100mg per day

Week 9-10

Proviron 50mg per day

PCT to start 3rd day after last test prop injection i.e. 23/11/2015

100/100/50/50 Clomid
40/40/20/20 Nolva


I am switching from test H to test P because I haven't found any definitive answer to the half life, most answers said 10 days and because I want to jump on PCT quite quickly after cycle finishes prop seemed the best alternative to switch to. I haven't tried Test H before so am curious to give it a try. I am 35 yo and this will be my 5th cycle. I am guessing here but my BF is about 14% and I want to get down to 10% by then end of the cycle, I will be training 4 days a week and 3 of these will include 30-40 minutes of cardio after weight workout.

Thank you for reading and hopefully I haven't missed anything that would help you advise.

PS Forgot to add AI is Anastrozole 1 mg per tablet, 1 tablet 2 x per week Mon, Fri (this worked well for me in my last cycle)..

[Duo]

Come on guys lol.. someone must have an opinion or advice??

[AR's King Silabolin]

Have you used clen before? 60 mg is a pretty high starting dose hehe. No seriously, i Guess you mean 60 mcg, but stil. 60 mcg is high. When i tried it the first time, 20 mcg was enough. But i didnt like it. Weakness in gym, shaking no matter how much water i swallowed, hard time sleeping and just a ****ed up head not suitable for life outside gym.
But clen is poular so i Guess its me, but you should Research Your starting dose, if its Your first time With clen.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I personally think you are using too much gear for a cut.

Use large doses to AAS to grow.
Use small-moderate doses to cut.

For example, I ran a very successful cut on 200mg test Cweek and 235mg/tren a per week.

Off the top of my head you are running...
Test
Mast
Anavar
Tren
Proviron
T3
Clen
Etc...

[Duo]

I personally think you are using too much gear for a cut.

Use large doses to AAS to grow.
Use small-moderate doses to cut.

For example, I ran a very successful cut on 200mg test Cweek and 235mg/tren a per week.

Off the top of my head you are running...
Test
Mast
Anavar
Tren
Proviron
T3
Clen
Etc...

Thank you for your input, I def want to stick with the AAS in my OP. With this in mind how would you adjust the dosages? I am now thinking about dropping the Thermolipid stack and replacing with just Clen at 80mcg per day on the same weeks as in my OP. Or is there anything else that works better than Clen or should be added to Clen?

[Duo]

Have you used clen before? 60 mg is a pretty high starting dose hehe. No seriously, i Guess you mean 60 mcg, but stil. 60 mcg is high. When i tried it the first time, 20 mcg was enough. But i didnt like it. Weakness in gym, shaking no matter how much water i swallowed, hard time sleeping and just a ****ed up head not suitable for life outside gym.
But clen is poular so i Guess its me, but you should Research Your starting dose, if its Your first time With clen.

Hi, the dosage stated is correct it is in liquid format and comes in a 50ml bottle. I have used Clen before early last year and didn't see much results but was only running at 60mcg per day and diet wasn't super clean. That's unfortunate that Clen wasn't for you, did you find a substitute instead?

[jdc91gt]

Just my opinion but you have a lot of gear mixed there for cutting. Remember, cutting is really about diet, and I agree with Deadlifting Dog on the bulk/cut theory. Personally I can't do clen, as the sides are too much for me. Test H is you guys European test that I have not seen much in the U.S. and have never used it. Nor, I have researched its compound so I don't know half-life. I suspect similar to Test E or C. Your dosages don't look to me to be too much. Just too many compounds (and variables to control), but I suspect you'll be fine. Best of luck!

[Duo]

Just my opinion but you have a lot of gear mixed there for cutting. Remember, cutting is really about diet, and I agree with Deadlifting Dog on the bulk/cut theory. Personally I can't do clen, as the sides are too much for me. Test H is you guys European test that I have not seen much in the U.S. and have never used it. Nor, I have researched its compound so I don't know half-life. I suspect similar to Test E or C. Your dosages don't look to me to be too much. Just too many compounds (and variables to control), but I suspect you'll be fine. Best of luck!

Thank you for your feedback buddy, if I drop the thermolipid completely and leave the rest as is would you still think too many compounds? I am happy with the AAS and would like that to be my next cycle, I have used blends in the past with similar products and I was happy with the results, albeit the mg will be more this time around. I think test H is a European thing, most of my products are Rohm and this is something new that has recently come to market so would like to try. I think the ester is meant to be somewhere between test C and E, from what I have read the half life is somewhere between 5-10 days. Without any definitive answer this is why I would switch to test P later in my cycle.

[MrFreshmaker]

Just my opinion but you have a lot of gear mixed there for cutting. Remember, cutting is really about diet, and I agree with Deadlifting Dog on the bulk/cut theory. Personally I can't do clen, as the sides are too much for me. Test H is you guys European test that I have not seen much in the U.S. and have never used it. Nor, I have researched its compound so I don't know half-life. I suspect similar to Test E or C. Your dosages don't look to me to be too much. Just too many compounds (and variables to control), but I suspect you'll be fine. Best of luck!

Test Heptylate in fact is Test Enanthate imo.

[Duo]

are you saying that from first hand experience MrFreshmaker? I have read quite a few posts on different forums and lots of people disagree that it is simply test E under a different name..

[ab037]

I run my clen up to 120/ day. Also like to take T3 with it up to 100/ day. Just my thoughts on those. Cant speak on your other compounds.

[MrFreshmaker]

are you saying that from first hand experience MrFreshmaker? I have read quite a few posts on different forums and lots of people disagree that it is simply test E under a different name..

No,not first hand,but in french is called also testosterone enanthate,and it has same molecular formula as enanthate-C26H40O3

[numbere]

A sophisticated chemist might refer to testosterone ethanate as testosterone heptylate theramex.

Enanthic acid is commonly referred to as acetic acid and also has many synonyms systematic names. Some of these systematic names include: 1-Hexanecarboxylic acid, 5-Hexacid c-7, Enanthoic Acid, Enanthylic acid, Heptoic acid, Heptylic acid, Heptanoic Acid, n-Heptoic acid, n-Heptylic acid, Oenanthic acid, Oenanthylic acid, and n-Heptanoic Acid.

IMO your cycle is a mess. Way too many compounds and odd dosages. This includes too much tren and not enough mast.

How about giving us some more body stats?

[Duo]

A sophisticated chemist might refer to testosterone ethanate as testosterone heptylate theramex.

Enanthic acid is commonly referred to as acetic acid and also has many synonyms systematic names. Some of these systematic names include: 1-Hexanecarboxylic acid, 5-Hexacid c-7, Enanthoic Acid, Enanthylic acid, Heptoic acid, Heptylic acid, Heptanoic Acid, n-Heptoic acid, n-Heptylic acid, Oenanthic acid, Oenanthylic acid, and n-Heptanoic Acid.

IMO your cycle is a mess. Way too many compounds and odd dosages. This includes too much tren and not enough mast.

How about giving us some more body stats?

Thank you for the science Bruv, so its Test E then lol.. Stats sure:

Age 35
5 1/2 years training experience
189 lbs
14%ish BF
This next cycle will be my 5th, previous ones were run for 12 weeks.

Cycle 1 Test E only
Cycle 2 Test E, Dbol, Deca
Cycle 3 Test E, Tren E, Anavar, Proviron, HCG
Cycle 4 Test C, Masteron, Tren A, Winstrol, Proviron, HCG

All ended with a 4 week PCT Nolva & Clomid. Is there anything else you need to know to help me rearrange my cycle Numbere?

[TheTaxMan]

Just out of interest
What doseage were your previous cycles?

[Duo]

now you asking lol, from memory of the earlier ones at least were:

Cycle 1 Test E only 700 mg per week
Cycle 2 Test E 700 mg per week, Dbol 50mg per day for 5 weeks , Deca 400mg per week
Cycle 3 Test E 200mg per week, Tren E 400 mg per week, Anavar 100mg per day weeks 5-10 , Proviron 25mg per day last 2 weeks of cycle , HCG
Cycle 4 Test C 300mg per week, Masteron 400mg per week , Tren A 400mg per week, Winstrol 100 mg per day week 5-10 , Proviron 25mg per day last 2 weeks of cycle, HCG 2 x 250iu per week

[TheTaxMan]

Was just asking to see if you used low tren doseages i was going to say maybe increase them

Me personaly id just repeat cycle 4 if you got good results the last time

but maybe use test p instead of test c?

no need to add more compounds or increase doses imo do that when gains halter?

[numbere]

Thank you for the science Bruv, so its Test E then lol.. Stats sure:

Age 35
5 1/2 years training experience
189 lbs
14%ish BF
This next cycle will be my 5th, previous ones were run for 12 weeks.

Cycle 1 Test E only
Cycle 2 Test E, Dbol, Deca
Cycle 3 Test E, Tren E, Anavar, Proviron, HCG
Cycle 4 Test C, Masteron, Tren A, Winstrol, Proviron, HCG

All ended with a 4 week PCT Nolva & Clomid. Is there anything else you need to know to help me rearrange my cycle Numbere?

Dude I don't mean to bust your chops, but 6' 190 pounds ant 14% BF after 4 cycles shows that your diet needs and overhaul. Those stats can be obtained by a natural lifter.

[WhiteBoy18]

I'm 8 weeks into my "cutting cycle"
400test e
600tren e
It's literally all diet. You can take what ever you want as a "cutter", but at the end of the day you are what you eat. I would drop everything and just stick to the basics. Test and tren. What's your pct look like?

With the mast prop I would save it for the end of your cycle and use 500mg+ a week. I had veins I've never seen before popping out.

6ft
207lbs
12%bf
3rd cycle

[Duo]

I'm 8 weeks into my "cutting cycle"
400test e
600tren e
It's literally all diet. You can take what ever you want as a "cutter", but at the end of the day you are what you eat. I would drop everything and just stick to the basics. Test and tren. What's your pct look like?

With the mast prop I would save it for the end of your cycle and use 500mg+ a week. I had veins I've never seen before popping out.

6ft
207lbs
12%bf
3rd cycle

Thanks for your post Whiteboy, you are spot on dropping everything and just running test, tren and last 4 weeks throw in the masteron at 400mg. PCT is nolva and clomid 100/100/50/50 40/40/20/20, always works well for me at this level. Goint to also run the HCG at 500 iu per week, no orals on this cycle. Is it possible you can pm me your diet overview throughout your current cycle please?

Thanks everyone for their input, ill post back goals at the end of the cycle...