stopping TBol after 2wks, help please.

[JuliasDad]

I am two weeks in of 60mg a day of tbol, was planning on running it for 6wks then 4wks of Clomid. The problem is I have felt like crap the last 2wks, energy off, appetite off, stomach aches, head aches almost daily, and to top it off I almost threw up last night, I hardly ever puke its been years and I don't think I'm sick. I can't think of anything else that would cause this, do u guys think it's from the tbol? If so I think I might stop today which stinks cause my weight and strength is already up a little but it's not worth feeling like this. Also if I do stop today do I still need to run the Clomid even though I was only on for 2wks??..... I am starting to think tbol doesn't agree with me, I ran it at the end of my last test cycle and I cut the dose back because I wasn't feeling good

Also if it's ok to skip the Clomid since it's only been two weeks I would like to do that because the end of my last cycle with the tbol and pct (Clomid and nolva) I felt like crap right through pct but shortly after started feeling better. Any advice is appreciated, I am assuming if I need PCT I wouldn't need to run it for the full 4 weeks correct? and maybe 25mg instead of 50mg?

[tice1212]

I am two weeks in of 60mg a day of tbol, was planning on running it for 6wks then 4wks of Clomid. The problem is I have felt like crap the last 2wks, energy off, appetite off, stomach aches, head aches almost daily, and to top it off I almost threw up last night, I hardly ever puke its been years and I don't think I'm sick. I can't think of anything else that would cause this, do u guys think it's from the tbol? If so I think I might stop today which stinks cause my weight and strength is already up a little but it's not worth feeling like this. Also if I do stop today do I still need to run the Clomid even though I was only on for 2wks??..... I am starting to think tbol doesn't agree with me, I ran it at the end of my last test cycle and I cut the dose back because I wasn't feeling good

Also if it's ok to skip the Clomid since it's only been two weeks I would like to do that because the end of my last cycle with the tbol and pct (Clomid and nolva) I felt like crap right through pct but shortly after started feeling better. Any advice is appreciated, I am assuming if I need PCT I wouldn't need to run it for the full 4 weeks correct? and maybe 25mg instead of 50mg?

U feel like crap because u didn't run test beside ur tbol only cycle.. Btw this plan is a mess

[NACH3]

U feel like crap because u didn't run test beside ur tbol only cycle.. Btw this plan is a mess

^^^ BINGO!! No test = major suppression if not shut down totally... You only had to run a trt dose of test(enough to replace what your body isn't making ATM -

Oral only cycles are a waste of time and $$ furthermore, you won't/wouldn't have kept any of your 'gains' either... Not w/out test as a base!!

[JuliasDad]

U feel like crap because u didn't run test beside ur tbol only cycle.. Btw this plan is a mess

plenty of people have ran TBol only cycles. I have run Test cycles but had Tbol on hand, did some research and wanted to try it for 6wks. I feel like complete crap and I might stop so if anyone has advice on PCT for a 2wk cycle I would appreciate it and curious if others have felt the same from TBol.

Think I am going to stay natural after this, I have a good base just want to tweak a few things.

[Bodacious]

plenty of people have ran TBol only cycles. I have run Test cycles but had Tbol on hand, did some research and wanted to try it for 6wks. I feel like complete crap and I might stop so if anyone has advice on PCT for a 2wk cycle I would appreciate it and curious if others have felt the same from TBol.

Think I am going to stay natural after this, I have a good base just want to tweak a few things.

They, more than likely felt like crap also. You should have run a small amount of test with it. Tbol has shut you down. I would run a small PCT for a few weeks for sure.

[TheTaxMan]

Plenty of people have done lots of things, plenty of people have done lots of wrong things, such as oral only cycles.

Always run test with anything.

As said above
Your probably shut down and have no test in your system thats why you feel like you do.

Run pct - clomid and nolva
Nolva wk1 40mg wk 2/3/4 20mg
Clomid wk1 100mg wk 2/3/4 50mg

[tice1212]

plenty of people have ran TBol only cycles. I have run Test cycles but had Tbol on hand, did some research and wanted to try it for 6wks. I feel like complete crap and I might stop so if anyone has advice on PCT for a 2wk cycle I would appreciate it and curious if others have felt the same from TBol.

Think I am going to stay natural after this, I have a good base just want to tweak a few things.

There is 7 billion people on this earth of course there is plenty of people that run tbol only cycles and do u know what we call those people?! Idiots. Don't take offenses by my response just make sure to do much more research before putting something into ur body.
Well it sounds like ur shut down. So I would run
Clomid 50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/20

[mike198]

You feel bad because you did not run test. You have absolutely no testosterone in your body right now because you shut yourself down with the tbol. Lesson learned I assume. Start pct immediately.

Clomid and nolva
50/50/50
20/20/20

[RigPig]

Seriously? A 3 week PCT for a 2 week Tbol f**k up? Personally I'd say ride it out then smarten the "f" up. Maybe a couple more weeks of feeling like sh*t will help you see the light.

Edit- Just to be clear, I don't mean continue taking Tbol, I mean just let your body get back to normal on its own.

[here2grow]

Seriously? A 3 week PCT for a 2 week Tbol f**k up?
Personally I'd say ride it out then smarten the "f" up. Maybe a couple more weeks of feeling like sh*t will help you see the light.

hahaha you crack me up man

[JuliasDad]

Thank you for the feedback, 3 weeks of PCT for 2 weeks of TBol? I did just start clomid today 50mg but 3 weeks does seem a little long for just 2 wks. I have read mixed things about needing PCT for something this short but I will do a couple weeks to be safe. Thanks and I wont make this mistake again and might just stay natural, I juiced a lot in my 20's but now that I am in my 30's with a family I might just leave it alone