Why is it bad for younger guys to go on test only cycle?

[gangen]

I'm 19 and have heard that i should not cycle till you are atleast in your late 20's, but if you only use testosterone is there really any big side effects? I just completed my personal trainer degree and at the end of the course we got to speak with some of the top personal trainers in my country, one of which had a master in human physiology & psychology (yes psychology, not that that really matters an awful lot). I asked him why don't old people get extra testosterone and he said that he had thought about the same thing and belive that old people should get extra testosterone. He was also in he's 50's and told me that he would go on testosterone when he retires and told me and the whole class that using testosterone for men is comparable in giving birth control pills to women. I never asked him about the use of testosterone in younger guys, but from what he said I find it hard to belive that using testosterone at my age is that dangerous when girls my age are using birth control pills.

[marcus300]

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosteronepeak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

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[hollowedzeus]

It has the possibility of damaging your endocrine system.

If you shut your natural production down it might not come back ehen you pct.

Also if youre still growing like me. Your brain is still developing. Flooding that delicate process with androgens is one sure way of having to explain to your girlfriend that its not her that lost your erection it was the steroids

Edit - beat me to it^^

[marcus300]

AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.



TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolicsupport, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.

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[Dannyboy51577]

Gangen, unfortunately there isnt and wont be, actual studies, research, etc on this matter in western medicine, or the us/uk etc at least, in our lifetime. I have had a discussion or two with an endo and a biology professor. They agree on one thing- they dont really know. I actually vrought up the same point- although it is not exactly the same, women can and often do begin birth control at a young age, mess with their reproductive hormones while still developing, get off the pills 15 years later, and can get pregnant in a couple months. I was told although the theory is inderstandable, and could be right, its not a good comparison because of the difference in how the reproductive systems work in men and women.
There are many studies on this subject, dosages, fertility, hpta, but alot were done in countries like hungary, russia, the block countries and are very hard to get a hold of and arent in english.
Although not set in stone, its a consensus that a mans hpta isnt completely developed until 25-26 yr old. And again, because there is limited scientific info on aas use in anyone at any time, it is unknown but assumed that aas should not be utilized until this process is complete, as a safe way of looking at it.

[GearHeaded]

I'm 19 and have heard that i should not cycle till you are atleast in your late 20's, but if you only use testosterone is there really any big side effects?

does not matter if you ONLY use Test or something else. the danger comes from the exogenous hormone shutting down your HPTA, thats the issue (not the other side effects of the diff compounds). and just Test shuts you down just like every other steroid

[marcus300]

In all my years of knowing younger guys starting many close friends and some online guys its not worth it, build a base from hard training and learn about how your body builds muscle from good solid diet, build that foundation and your going to be in a better place than just starting without one. I know many think they have a good base but trust me get some reps and sets under your belt what send you through hell and back and feed that growth and you will grow like a weed with your natural test. I know what you may think and I'm not saying it just to hold you back I am trying to help you be a beast it just takes time to build and create the freak. Listen and learn from guys who know please